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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sorn" data-source="post: 897061" data-attributes="member: 3097">The only time any penetration would be involved with oral would be when a male is "serviced". But even then, the penetrative factor is only a small sub-section of the whole thing by the time you figure in licking certain spots etc.  So, oral is its own proficiency group whereas the non-vaginal proficiencies are all penetrative.  Speaking of which, we still need a name for NVI. How about Exotic Penetration? Since the Exotic Proficiencies have been renamed to Mental Prof's, there shouldn't be any confusion (unless people think they need something special to acquire Exotic Penetration profs). Anyway, it appears to me that version 1.5.1 of the core mechanics is sound and very close to final. Should we move on to the other subjects on the to-do list and deal with the minor issues later?  I don't mean to rush anything, but I am afraid we keep on fine-tuning and fiddling with these little things in the core mechanics until hell freezes over. As it stands right now, at worst a modifier will be tweaked or a proficiency will be amended. Those changes, even if implemented later, are easily propagated through other finished chapters with a simple Search&Replace. I think the next thing we should tackle are the Soft Focus rules. There are some modifiers mentioned in the Size Matters rules, but this needs to be fleshed out.</blockquote>