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<blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 167204" data-attributes="member: 167"><p><strong>Re: The "Silliness" factor?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I read it too, and I though, as if I care, such thoughts about immature themes sit as tightly in people's heads as many people's ideas of a) high-level/high-magic/high-stats game being 'munchkin' (I probly misspelled that), b) rightness of their idea of game-balance or c) arguments over D&D morality and 'how paladin is played RIGHT'.</p><p></p><p>Besides, some people always follow opinions of flock, especially, if they haven't yet formed their own. This is how some computer game for example gets nominated for 'best/worst' game of all time. It is wonderous how many people 'vote' their 'opinions' based on opinions they've heard/read.</p><p></p><p>Many people don't play D&D, because it is 'immature' and 'silly', it has level and hit points. Hit points being especially silly etc... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Immaturity comes from people's heads, it has nothing to do with people actually reading our guide and then stating their opinions. Some have read it or earlier version, but as many probably pass it because 'whole theme is immature to exist in rpg'. Silliness and immaturity feel two different opinions to me.</p><p></p><p>And, many just don't like idea of 'rolling for orgasm', even if they do use sexual themes in their games.</p><p></p><p>More serious and spiritual side? Ah, true music for coming in flame war. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Trying to go for too serious would be mistake at least, spirituality just brought to my mind alignment arguments. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Problem is, we have limited number of people who wrote/ are writing this guide, it is voluntary, it is not paid job, and we are limited by those ideas we have. I've not once heard anyone claiming to be some sort of expert on these matters. So, if people want real life stuff, they are better off reading quite other books and they probably are too.</p><p></p><p>I wonder, what those people mean by that, anyway. More serious and spiritual side? That could mean many things.</p><p></p><p>Isewa, if you want add such aspects to this guide, feel free and write or persuade someone to. Any ideas? What to add, what kind of things would be useful for those mildly sexually themed games? Opinions?</p><p></p><p>I think this is not about only transferring some sfuff to guide part 2, something might need to be added too.</p><p></p><p>I am best at writing monsters/items/spells/weirdness/stories as long as someone corrects my English.</p><p></p><p>In games I've played/been dm, sexual themes are sometimes non-existant. Sometimes existed as realistic and somewhat grim (sad fates of lower city prostitutes and such) as addition to make world feel more 'realistic'. At other times it has been part of PC past time activities (fun), sometimes sex is used to gain something (seductions). And of course many demonologists and evil wizards, and different critters who have their own special 'needs' (whatever pc getting to to be bad guy's/gal's love intrest, or evil wizard practising perverse rituals to gain power, or emphatic vampirism, villagers possessed by weird spirits, that cause them to start mad mating orgy... but for what reason.. etc).</p><p></p><p>How are promised stories coming up, btw? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am truly tired when I write these answers...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zelda Themelin, post: 167204, member: 167"] [b]Re: The "Silliness" factor?[/b] I read it too, and I though, as if I care, such thoughts about immature themes sit as tightly in people's heads as many people's ideas of a) high-level/high-magic/high-stats game being 'munchkin' (I probly misspelled that), b) rightness of their idea of game-balance or c) arguments over D&D morality and 'how paladin is played RIGHT'. Besides, some people always follow opinions of flock, especially, if they haven't yet formed their own. This is how some computer game for example gets nominated for 'best/worst' game of all time. It is wonderous how many people 'vote' their 'opinions' based on opinions they've heard/read. Many people don't play D&D, because it is 'immature' and 'silly', it has level and hit points. Hit points being especially silly etc... ;) Immaturity comes from people's heads, it has nothing to do with people actually reading our guide and then stating their opinions. Some have read it or earlier version, but as many probably pass it because 'whole theme is immature to exist in rpg'. Silliness and immaturity feel two different opinions to me. And, many just don't like idea of 'rolling for orgasm', even if they do use sexual themes in their games. More serious and spiritual side? Ah, true music for coming in flame war. :D Trying to go for too serious would be mistake at least, spirituality just brought to my mind alignment arguments. :) Problem is, we have limited number of people who wrote/ are writing this guide, it is voluntary, it is not paid job, and we are limited by those ideas we have. I've not once heard anyone claiming to be some sort of expert on these matters. So, if people want real life stuff, they are better off reading quite other books and they probably are too. I wonder, what those people mean by that, anyway. More serious and spiritual side? That could mean many things. Isewa, if you want add such aspects to this guide, feel free and write or persuade someone to. Any ideas? What to add, what kind of things would be useful for those mildly sexually themed games? Opinions? I think this is not about only transferring some sfuff to guide part 2, something might need to be added too. I am best at writing monsters/items/spells/weirdness/stories as long as someone corrects my English. In games I've played/been dm, sexual themes are sometimes non-existant. Sometimes existed as realistic and somewhat grim (sad fates of lower city prostitutes and such) as addition to make world feel more 'realistic'. At other times it has been part of PC past time activities (fun), sometimes sex is used to gain something (seductions). And of course many demonologists and evil wizards, and different critters who have their own special 'needs' (whatever pc getting to to be bad guy's/gal's love intrest, or evil wizard practising perverse rituals to gain power, or emphatic vampirism, villagers possessed by weird spirits, that cause them to start mad mating orgy... but for what reason.. etc). How are promised stories coming up, btw? :) I am truly tired when I write these answers... [/QUOTE]
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