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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 173848" data-attributes="member: 167">kolvarBy 'just lists' I just meant, do you want just lists, because I wanted to make longer explanation. There are few spells, that are IMO worth while (naah, none of them mine <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), and I'd like to keep them, but not as such.I mostly went through just with those spells on list (ok, I checked them all), items I didn't read except those Isawa mentioned.Lists are very good, hopefully my comments are of some help too.I don't want to kick every spell mentioned out. Few need rules changing, or reworking, name change, or kicking them to hentai-guide. Removing some silly/offensive comments, that are just 'extra' are in place also, Chains of Lust, anyone?Needlessly stupid material components I'd remove/change, but that's my personal bias. Some of them seem to be 20th century culture jokes, and I don't get few them at all.Prices for magic items are a bit off.tanilenIMO there can be many spells for causing lust/ecstasy, after all, there are many different versions of basicly same attack spell. I think this is cool as long as they are somewhat different in flavor/purpose, and their spell-levels are logical compared to each other.Many peoplë, who bother to read spells beyond PHB, love spell-variations. I love them very much, as long as they compare logically in level/effect/balance. Not all spells has to be equally balaced of course, dm:s want their 'evil dm'-spells. I want mine, at least.Also, there might be different love/hate/lust/insanity curse-effects, that actually go under bestow curse, but no harm writing 'few examples', though I don't know if they must be separate spells. How you like idea of making Bestow curse (insanity is under this spell)-variations?I most certainly agree on existing mechanics use, like arousal states, etc, but we also need to say effect in terms of 'normal game', and that means -4 to all actions and stuff like that. Also, IMO certain spell effects take subject beyond normal scale of human feeling, or can be compared to at least 'drugged state'. Such effects are IMO harmful, causing damage, subdual damage and/or addiction, besides potential arousal effects, that must be mentioned, if any, since such affect our 'sex system' rulings.AnabstercorianGood idea for 'losing family jewels'. How do rest of you like it?Also, there needs to be taken into account, does for example spell do this in way, that causes actual damage, besides pain-trauma, saying, lost of hit points. How about subdual damage, if not that? This is something, that needs to be covered with spells, that cause such effect. Otherwise I'd say it to be just normal or maybe critical (probably on criticals only effect) weapon damage.</blockquote>

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