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<blockquote data-quote="Fox Lee" data-source="post: 193604" data-attributes="member: 4346">Grey areasHmmm... I'm having sort of sticky gender issues here. The main example I'm thinking of at the moment is Khaira, my elven barbarian; she's at least a little more masculine than the next member of the party, and she must be about fifty times as manly as her two love interests ^^;&nbsp; On the other hand... Lloryn, my elven sorcerer, completely bisexual and quite possibly the most feminine D&amp;D character I've ever seen played. The sort of person who gives you the impression that he was only born with a penis by accident. I just can't imagine that if they both walked onto this plane, Lloryn wouldn't end up being somebody's sex toy while Khaira stuck it out with the worst of the testosterone-charged nutters.Does the plane identify the gender of somebody on it purely based on their body, or does it consider every level - mental, physical, spiritual, so forth? I tend to think the latter is more likely - and in that case, there would be (albeit only a few, but definitely a few) cases where somebody who was born female would be presumed male, vice-versa.Perhaps it's sort of an overall thing that I'm hoping for - quite a few things in the book seem to at least partially rely on gender, where in a lot of cases my male characters would fit better with the female effects and females with male effects. Particularly effects on a physical level - Lloryn, for one, was almost inevitably taken to be female on sight, looking FAR more like a girl than a boy.Perhaps it might be an idea to allow for these anti-stereotype cases; a note somewhere that the &quot;effective&quot; gender may not always be the same as the physical or apparent one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fox Lee, post: 193604, member: 4346"] [b]Grey areas[/b] Hmmm... I'm having sort of sticky gender issues here. The main example I'm thinking of at the moment is Khaira, my elven barbarian; she's at least a little more masculine than the next member of the party, and she must be about fifty times as manly as her two love interests ^^; On the other hand... Lloryn, my elven sorcerer, completely bisexual and quite possibly the most feminine D&D character I've ever seen played. The sort of person who gives you the impression that he was only born with a penis by accident. I just can't imagine that if they both walked onto this plane, Lloryn wouldn't end up being somebody's sex toy while Khaira stuck it out with the worst of the testosterone-charged nutters. Does the plane identify the gender of somebody on it purely based on their body, or does it consider every level - mental, physical, spiritual, so forth? I tend to think the latter is more likely - and in that case, there would be (albeit only a few, but definitely a few) cases where somebody who was born female would be presumed male, vice-versa. Perhaps it's sort of an overall thing that I'm hoping for - quite a few things in the book seem to at least partially rely on gender, where in a lot of cases my male characters would fit better with the female effects and females with male effects. Particularly effects on a physical level - Lloryn, for one, was almost inevitably taken to be female on sight, looking FAR more like a girl than a boy. Perhaps it might be an idea to allow for these anti-stereotype cases; a note somewhere that the "effective" gender may not always be the same as the physical or apparent one. [/QUOTE]

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