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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lily Inverse" data-source="post: 206303" data-attributes="member: 4594">Nice idea, but....There are some real problems with it in a "normal" campaignSex is Power (Ex): A Passionate requires near-constant sexual contact in order to fuel their powers. In order to use the abilities of any given level of Passionate, he must have had sexual contact a number of times within the last 24 hours at least equal to the level of Passionate that the ability is acquired at. For example, to gain Sex Appeal as a virtual feat, an ability acquired at 1st level, a Passionate must have had sexual contact at least once in the last 24 hours. If they go 24 hours without sexual contact, they lose the ability until they once more have sexual contact.This restriction is in place because of how the Passionate fuels his abilities. Upon completing sexual contact, the Passionate's partner becomes, in essence, a gateway to the Elemental Plane of Eros, pouring energy in to the passionate. Because of this, if the Passionate's partner is slain, petrified, or on another plane of existence from the Passionate, then they are no longer considered to have had sexual contact with the passionate. For example, if a Passionate has sex three times, gaining the ability Seductive Grace, and then one of his partners is killed, he immediately loses that ability, retaining only his second level abilities until he once more has sexual contact.This means that a 10th level Passionate needs to find and have sex with ten people EVERY DAY to maintain their abilities.  Think about that for a second.  Out in the wilderness, with no more than four or five companions.....This gets even worse later.  I'd recommend allowing someone to function as one contact per every four levels of the character.  Sex Appeal (Su): At 1st level, a Passionate gains Sex Appeal as a virtual feat. If he actually has the feat Sex Appeal, the bonuses gained from that feat are doubled. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.No problems herePassionate Heart (Su): A Passionate gains a Competetence bonus to all sexual prowess checks equal to twice their Passionate level. Their reputation for being sexual dynamos is easily true. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.I'll wait until we have the sex rules finalized to pass judgement.  Might be too powerful.Heartwatch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to see a lifeforms sexual aura (or lackthereof) and its details. A Passionate can acertain the sexual orientation, sexual desire, and all other relavent details of a creature's sexuality as a move equivalent action. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Sensual Touch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to helplessly daze an opponent with his caress at will. As a standard action, he may make a melee touch attack that affects his target as the Daze cantrip unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) This is a mind affecting effect. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Good.Seductive Grace (Su): At 3rd level, a Passionate's body is infused with small levels of pure erotic energy, giving them unnaturally beautiful grace and a remarkably flexible anatomy. They gain a +2 bonus to Dexterity and a +4 Competence bonus to Tumble, Escape Artist, Balance, and physical Perform checks. Additionally, they gain Dexterous Lover as a bonus sex trick. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Erm.....wow.  +5 to two combat-based skills and another extremely useful one as an 8th level character.  I'd make the skill bonus a +2 also.Eros Strike (Su): At 4th level, a Passionate learns to channel his erotic energy in to a dangerously potent form. As a standard action once per hour, he can make a melee touch attack to slap a foe with his hand, sending a surge of eros energy through their bodies. The target must make a Will save DC 12 + Cha mod or fall unconscious for 2d4 hours, during which they remain in a state of erotic dream. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Again....wow.  The DC might not be great, but this is still pretty powerful.  Probably not TOO much though.  If you reversed this with the previous one I'd consider it balanced enough/Stunning Beauty (Su): At 5th level, a Passionate's beauty becomes so overwhelming that it can leave mortals breathless with awe. All targets within 30 feet of the Passionate who look directly at him are Stunned for 1 round unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) Targets of this ability, whether they make their save or not, are immune to it for one day thereafter. If the Passionate has the Sex Appeal feat, the duration of the Stunning affect is doubled. This is a mind affecting effect. This power cannot be deactivated, but the Passionate can prevent others from seeing him using a heavy cloak or other highly modest garment. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Another sucker that makes this man highly impractical as an adventuring companion.   Moreover, it means that groups of Passionate simply cannot exist for a long time, as they would be constantly stunning each other every once in awhile., even with their high Will saves.Touch of the Passionate (Su): At 6th level, a Passionate is blessed by their patron Incarna, gaining the ability to permanently change those whom they make love to in to forms more pleasing to their masters. This ability can be suppressed or reactivated by the Passionate at will, and is activated by having sexual contact (as defined previously) with the target. Will save DC 12 + Cha mod to resist. All alterations last 2d4 days. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Love: The target is filled with love, becoming one step less hostile towards all characters (Indifferent to Friendly, Friendly to Helpful.) Player characters are encouraged to role play this effect but suffer no other consequences.Desire: The target immediately acquires the Sex Appeal feat if they didn't have it already.Lust: The target immediately becomes cabable of being physically attracted to all genders and species, even ones wildly different from their own species.Perversion: The target immediately acquires a random sexual perversion, chosen at random by either the random perversion table, the DM, or the relevent player.This eeems okay.Strength of Passion (Su): At 7th level, the erotic energy filling the body of the Passionate increases, allowing them to not only move faster, but with greater power and strength. They gain a +2 bonus to Strength and a +4 competence bonus to Jump, Climb, and Swim checks. Additionally, they gain Powerful Lover as a bonus sex trick. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.Erm....no.  Just NO.  I'd strongly consider just putting something else here, or in with the Dex bonus one above.  Uncontrollable Passion (Su): At 8th level, it becomes unclear whether the Passionate uses his passion or his passion uses him. Whenever the Passionate hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours, he must immediately make a Will save (DC 20) or go in to a sexual frenzy, doing everything possible within the constraints of his alignment to have sexual contact until he no longer hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours.On the bright side, he can inflict this same desperate passion on others with a gaze attack, igniting his eyes with erotic power. Once per day he can activate a gaze attack for two rounds. This gaze attack causes the victim to enter a sexual frenzy, as above, for 2d3 hours. Will save DC 20 + Cha mod to resist. This is a mind-affecting ability. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability, but the Passionate's own addiction is inescapable.All right, let's take our theoretical adventuing party above.  Two weeks out, and he's managed to get his companions tired of having sex every day.  Now what?  He goes berserk and either rapes the entire party or simply leaves to find more assistance elsewhere.  I just don't think you're going to convince ANYONE to do this.Pounding Heart (Su): At 9th level, a Passionate becomes completely infused with erotic energy. Even his metabolism is primarily powered by erotic power. At 9th level, a Passionate no longer needs to eat, and can hold his breath for five times as long as normal, although this gives him no special protection against crushing depths of water or the depths of space. Additionally, he gains a +2 bonus to Constitution as long as he's had sexual contact in the last hour. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability.ANOTHER stat bonus? Proxy of the Incarna (Su): At 10th level, a Passionate becomes a Proxy for his patron Incarna, gaining the authority to command other Passionate and act as a representative of his Patron. Additionally, the effects of the Passionate's Touch of the Passionate ability are now permanent. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability, but the status of Proxy is not.Permanent mental alteration to characters?  Better work in a way to undo this.Eyes of the Passionate (Su): At 10th level, a Passionate gains a potent gaze attack that he can activate and deactivate at will. This gaze attack exactly duplicates the effects of Touch of the Passionate, except that it is not rendered permanent by Proxy of the Incarna. It has a range of 30 feet. This power is usually accompanied by eyes that glow in a constantly shifting spectrum, but this can be suppressed by the Passionate should he so choose.Erk.Honestly, I admire the idea and think it's interesting, but having a requirement to permanently fuel a character's powers and having such drastic consequences for NOT fulfilling those requirements just seems to be completely unworkable.  I don't think you're going to be able to get around the problems, and I've seen you trying already.  It might be time to scrap the entire class and start over from the beginning.</blockquote>

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