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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crothian" data-source="post: 193240" data-attributes="member: 232">The Passionate >>>>Flavor is interesting.   It does seem to describer the class well and give it some life.  Please not I’m not a reader of the Guide to Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, so I will be asking question about things I’m not sure aboutPrerequisites Sexual Prowess: 8 ranks Feats: Skill Focus (Sexual Prowess), Endurance Alignment: Any Chaotic Sex Tricks: Adaptive Lover (Any), Easy to Read, Intuitive Lover, Species Focus (Any) Special: Must have visited the Elemental Plane of Eros and coupled with a Lust Elemental while there. It is highly recommended that this requirement not be waived under any circumstances. >>>>How hard is it to learn sex tricks?  Is it available to all classes are just certain classes?  The two feats and the skill points seem fine.  Based on the skill points someone has to be 5th level to get this.  Can the other abilities be gotten by 5th as well?  Traveling to another plane and coupling sounds a little on the difficult side.  Anything about that that makes it harder or easier then normal planar requirements?Class Features: Hit Die: d10 Base Attack Bonus: As Fighter Saving Throws: As Monk Class Skills, Skill Points: As Monk + Sexual Prowess >>>>Class features are amazingly good.  Actually, they can’t get much better.  Best saves and best BAB does not seem to fit this class; same with the d10 HD.  You have nothing combat related in the prerequisites, so why do they get all these great combat class features?Class Abilities by Level: 1st: Sex is Power, Sex Appeal, Passionate Heart 2nd: Heartwatch, Sensual Touch 3rd: Seductive Grace, Second Home 4th: Eros Strike 5th: Stunning Beauty 6th: Twisting Gaze 7th: Strength of Passion 8th: Uncontrollable Passion 9th: Pounding Heart 10th: Avatar of the Incarna Sex is Power (Ex): A Passionate requires near-constant sexual contact in order to fuel their powers. In order to use the abilities of any given level of Passionate, he must have had sexual contact a number of times within the last 24 hours at least equal to the level of Passionate that the ability is acquired at. For example, to gain Sex Appeal as a virtual feat, an ability acquired at 1st level, a Passionate must have had sexual contact at least once in the last 24 hours. If they go 24 hours without sexual contact, they lose the ability until they once more have sexual contact. This restriction is in place because of how the Passionate fuels his abilities. Upon completing sexual contact, the Passionate's partner becomes, in essence, a gateway to the Elemental Plane of Eros, pouring energy in to the passionate. Because of this, if the Passionate's partner is slain, petrified, or on another plane of existence from the Passionate, then they are no longer considered to have had sexual contact with the passionate. For example, if a Passionate has sex three times, gaining the ability Seductive Grace, and then one of his partners is killed, he immediately loses that ability, retaining only his second level abilities until he once more has sexual contact. >>>>What constitutes sexual contact?  10 times a day is a lot if it’s going all the way.  And that is quite time consuming to do so once (or at least in theory should be).  This is obviously a limit on the class, but might be a bit much of one.  Sex Appeal (Su): At 1st level, a Passionate gains Sex Appeal as a virtual feat. If he actually has the feat Sex Appeal, the bonuses gained from that feat are doubled. This ability is limited by Sex is Power like any other Passionate ability. Passionate Heart (Su): A Passionate gains a Competetence bonus to all sexual prowess checks equal to twice their Passionate level. Their reputation for being sexual dynamos is easily true. Heartwatch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to see a lifeforms sexual aura (or lackthereof) and its details. A Passionate can acertain the sexual orientation, sexual desire, and all other relavent details of a creature's sexuality as a move equivalent action. Sensual Touch (Su): At 2nd level, a Passionate gains the ability to helplessly daze an opponent with his caress at will. As a standard action, he may make a melee touch attack that affects his target as the Daze cantrip unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) This is a mind affecting effect. Seductive Grace (Su): At 3rd level, a Passionate's body is infused with small levels of pure erotic energy, giving them unnaturally beautiful grace and a remarkably flexible anatomy. They gain a +2 bonus to Dexterity and a +4 Competence bonus to Tumble, Escape Artist, Balance, and physical Perform checks. Additionally, they gain Dexterous Lover as a bonus sex trick. >>>>Without knowing what these do, it’s hard to say if they are balanced.  However, a +2 to dexterity and the +4 to four skills is very strong.Second Home (Sp): At 3rd level a Passionate can cast Eros Shift as a spell like ability once per day. At 7th, they gain the ability to use this spell at will. >>>>Again, I don’t know what the spell does, but going from one a day to at will is a huge leap and might be too much.  Eros Strike (Su): At 4th level, a Passionate learns to channel his erotic energy in to a dangerously potent form. As a standard action once per hour, he can make a melee touch attack to slap a foe with his hand, sending a surge of eros energy through their bodies. This energy does 4d8+Cha bonus subdual damage to the target as their mind struggles (and ultimately fails) to deal with the enormous torrent of passion flowing through it. Targets who are rendered unconscious by this attack remain so for a number of hours equal to the damage inflicted by the attack, during which they remain in a state of erotic dream. >>>>This is just odd.  I’d make the unconscious a saving throw.  The way you have it, it is based on current hps.  Also the amount of time unconscious is too long.  On average with an 18 charisma is 22 hours.   That can be very powerful to take some out for that long with no save.  You also might want to limit this to once a day.  Stunning Beauty (Su): At 5th level, a Passionate's beauty becomes so overwhelming that it can leave mortals breathless with awe. All targets within 30 feet of the Passionate who look directly at him are Stunned for 1 round unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 12 + Cha modifier.) Targets of this ability, whether they make their save or not, are immune to it for one day thereafter. If the Passionate has the Sex Appeal feat, the duration of the Stunning affect is doubled. This is a mind affecting effect. >>>>Can this ability be turned off and on?  Otherwise, you’re really going to draw a lot of attention to yourself as everyone around you is being stunned.  Imagine walking through a big city with this ability.Twisting Gaze (Su): At 6th level, a Passionate's eyes begin to glow with sexual energy, giving him a permanent gaze attack, range of 30 feet, Will save DC 12 + Cha modifier. Targets who fail their save against this effect are permanently rendered bisexual. >>>>Okay, what’s the purpose of this?  It seems sort of pointless to do that too people.  Strength of Passion (Su): At 7th level, the erotic energy filling the body of the Passionate increases, allowing them to not only move faster, but with greater power and strength. They gain a +2 bonus to Strength and a +4 competence bonus to Jump, Climb, and Swim checks. Additionally, they gain Powerful Lover as a bonus sex trick. >>>>Again this is probably too strong.  Especially since they get the Dex boost at an earlier level.Uncontrollable Passion (Su): At 8th level, it becomes unclear whether the Passionate uses his passion or his passion uses him. Whenever the Passionate hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours, he must immediately make a Will save (DC 20) or go in to a sexual frenzy, doing everything possible within the constraints of his alignment to have sexual contact until he no longer hasn't had sexual contact a number of times at least equal to twice his Passionate level within the last 36 hours. On the bright side, he can inflict this same desperate passion on others with a gaze attack, igniting his eyes with erotic power. Once per day he can activate a gaze attack for two rounds. This gaze attack causes the victim to enter a sexual frenzy, as above, for 2d3 hours. Will save DC 20 to resist. >>>>Another nice limiting factor, but the gaze should last 2d3 hours or until satisfied.  Or something like that.  Pounding Heart (Su): At 9th level, a Passionate becomes completely infused with erotic energy. Even his metabolism is primarily powered by erotic power. At 9th level, a Passionate no longer needs to eat, and can hold his breath for five times as long as normal, although this gives him no special protection against crushing depths of water or the depths of space. Additionally, he gains a +2 bonus to Constitution as long as he's had sexual contact in the last hour. >>>>Another attribute boost.  Again, too much.Proxy of the Incarna (Su): At 10th level, a Passionate becomes a Proxy for his patron Incarna. Aside from becoming a representative of the Incarna and whatever authority that provides, he can ignite a Storm of Passion once per day. This is powerful storm of erotic energy, a 20' emanation centered on the Passionate, that lasts 2d4 rounds. Once a round, at the beginning of the Passionate's initiative, the closest target to the Passionate within the range of the emanation is affected by a mind-affecting effect determined by the Passionate's patron Incarna, unless they succeed at a Will save (DC 20). These effects are listed as follows: Lust: The target is compelled to forcibly mate with the closest available creature. This effect lasts one hour. Desire: The target's mind is clouded with her deepest fantasy, sending her in to a dreamworld of her own devising. This knocks the target unconscious for 1d4 hours or until roused. Love: The target immediately falls in love with the first creature it sees. This love cannot be cured short of a Wish or Miracle and lasts 3d4 weeks. Perversion: The target permanently takes on a random perversion, chosen by d10: 1 - Teratophilia (A dangerous monster fetish) 2 - Chromophilia (A color fetish) 3 - Sadomasochism (An enjoyment of inflicting and receiving pain in sex) 4 - Submissive/Dominant (An enjoyment of either being controlled or controlling a lover during the sex act.) 5 - Devoraphila (An eating fetish) 6 - Zoophila (A fetish for sex with non-sentient creatures not of your species) 7 - Xenophilia (A fetish for sex with sentient creatures not of your species) 8 - Necrophilia (A fetish for sex with the dead or undead) 9 - Magophila (A fetish for sex altered by magical effects) 10 - Coprophilia (A fetish for wastes and excrements.) This fetish can cured with a Remove Curse, Heal, Restoration, Wish, Miracle, or any healing effect of equal or higher power. >>>>Overall, good idea and lots of cool abilities, but overpowered.</blockquote>

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