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<blockquote data-quote="Andre" data-source="post: 2438134" data-attributes="member: 25930">[Note: I've only seen the demo of Beast Builder]One thing to consider with BB is the list of special qualities in the back. Using nothing but that list, I'll bet you can quickly modify virtually any creature in minutes. I've done the same myself using an incomplete list compiled by a friend. A few examples:Dark Grig. Start with a Grig, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Change alignment to neutral evil •&nbsp; &nbsp; Change environment to underground •&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Evil Eye (Su), minus the death effect•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Darkvision 60’ •&nbsp; &nbsp; Remove Fiddle special ability •&nbsp; &nbsp; Change CR to 2Corrosive Fungus. Start with Phantom Fungus, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add two secondary slam attacks, 1d6+1 (tentacles)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Corrosive Slime, Weak (a toned-down version of the ability)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Adhesive•&nbsp; &nbsp; Change CR to 4Blink Sneaks. Start with Blink Dog, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Camouflage (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Sneak Attack (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Change CR to 3Ice Wolves. Start with Winter Wolf, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Icewalking (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Water Walking (Su) (special effect: ice forms under its paws)Royal Guard Skeleton (ala Diablo II). Start with Skeleton, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add max hit points per hit die•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Oversized Weapon (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Powerful Charge (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Rush (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Change CR to 1Rastipede. Start with Rast, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Spider Climb (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Remove Flight (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Change ground speed to 40 ft.•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add climb speed 40 ft.Hellacious Hounds. Start with Hell Hound, make the following changes:•&nbsp; &nbsp; Add Death Throes (Ex)•&nbsp; &nbsp; Boost CR to 4Someone who has BB will have to confirm that such abilities are listed in useful form, e.g., Death Throes, Rush, Powerful Charge, Icewalking, etc. If so, I'd recommend BB for shear flexibility and ease of use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andre, post: 2438134, member: 25930"] [Note: I've only seen the demo of Beast Builder] One thing to consider with BB is the list of special qualities in the back. Using nothing but that list, I'll bet you can quickly modify virtually any creature in minutes. I've done the same myself using an incomplete list compiled by a friend. A few examples: [B]Dark Grig[/B]. Start with a Grig, make the following changes: • Change alignment to neutral evil • Change environment to underground • Add Evil Eye (Su), minus the death effect • Add Darkvision 60’ • Remove Fiddle special ability • Change CR to 2 [B]Corrosive Fungus[/B]. Start with Phantom Fungus, make the following changes: • Add two secondary slam attacks, 1d6+1 (tentacles) • Add Corrosive Slime, Weak (a toned-down version of the ability) • Add Adhesive • Change CR to 4 [B]Blink Sneaks[/B]. Start with Blink Dog, make the following changes: • Add Camouflage (Ex) • Add Sneak Attack (Ex) • Change CR to 3 [B]Ice Wolves[/B]. Start with Winter Wolf, make the following changes: • Add Icewalking (Ex) • Add Water Walking (Su) (special effect: ice forms under its paws) [B]Royal Guard Skeleton[/B] (ala Diablo II). Start with Skeleton, make the following changes: • Add max hit points per hit die • Add Oversized Weapon (Ex) • Add Powerful Charge (Ex) • Add Rush (Ex) • Change CR to 1 [B]Rastipede[/B]. Start with Rast, make the following changes: • Spider Climb (Ex) • Remove Flight (Ex) • Change ground speed to 40 ft. • Add climb speed 40 ft. [B]Hellacious Hounds[/B]. Start with Hell Hound, make the following changes: • Add Death Throes (Ex) • Boost CR to 4 Someone who has BB will have to confirm that such abilities are listed in useful form, e.g., Death Throes, Rush, Powerful Charge, Icewalking, etc. If so, I'd recommend BB for shear flexibility and ease of use. [/QUOTE]

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