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<blockquote data-quote="Veritas" data-source="post: 1804313" data-attributes="member: 24638"><p>Like Mighty composite bows, but with dex rather than strength. So, if you have a +3 finesse weapon, someone can use up to +3 of their dex bonus to hit. Of course, you still need the Weapon Finesse feat to use it properly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, basically, this was meant to still keep humans down. heh. I don't think that humans should be able to craft the higher kinds of weapons, just given the time it takes to learn your craft well enough. Humans can make up to +1, but that's it. The age differences are just too much. If a human was able to extend his lifespan, maybe. And using helpers, other than having someone to hammer (like we saw in the reforging of Narsil), I don't think too many helpers could really help with weapon forging. One maximum, I think.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is true, and would account for many magical weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't forget that the special powers bonus is added to the now-magical attack bonus to calculate the cost of enchanting the weapon, and then the masterwork cost is added on top of that. So, this results in weapons costing MORE than the standard price.</p><p></p><p>So, you pay the cost of forging your elven +2 attack/+3 damage longsword:</p><p>+1200gp for attack bonus, +3000gp for damage bonus, +300gp for combining them = +4500gp, or 4515gp total cost. Then you add say, keen to it, which is a +1 bonus power. This plus is added to the attack bonus of the sword, to get +3, and this would add a total cost of +18000gp to the weapon.</p><p></p><p>So, the total weapon cost would be 22,515gp, whereas a standard DMG +2 magic sword with keen added would cost 18,315gp. </p><p></p><p>The only difference here is that this sword has an extra +1 to damage, but I think that's balanced well by the extra 4200gp. heh</p><p></p><p>Oh, the finesse bonus applies as an attack bonus for this too. I should have added that in. So, if you make a +2 finesse longsword with keen, it would cost 18,615gp total.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Veritas, post: 1804313, member: 24638"] Like Mighty composite bows, but with dex rather than strength. So, if you have a +3 finesse weapon, someone can use up to +3 of their dex bonus to hit. Of course, you still need the Weapon Finesse feat to use it properly. Well, basically, this was meant to still keep humans down. heh. I don't think that humans should be able to craft the higher kinds of weapons, just given the time it takes to learn your craft well enough. Humans can make up to +1, but that's it. The age differences are just too much. If a human was able to extend his lifespan, maybe. And using helpers, other than having someone to hammer (like we saw in the reforging of Narsil), I don't think too many helpers could really help with weapon forging. One maximum, I think. This is true, and would account for many magical weapons. Don't forget that the special powers bonus is added to the now-magical attack bonus to calculate the cost of enchanting the weapon, and then the masterwork cost is added on top of that. So, this results in weapons costing MORE than the standard price. So, you pay the cost of forging your elven +2 attack/+3 damage longsword: +1200gp for attack bonus, +3000gp for damage bonus, +300gp for combining them = +4500gp, or 4515gp total cost. Then you add say, keen to it, which is a +1 bonus power. This plus is added to the attack bonus of the sword, to get +3, and this would add a total cost of +18000gp to the weapon. So, the total weapon cost would be 22,515gp, whereas a standard DMG +2 magic sword with keen added would cost 18,315gp. The only difference here is that this sword has an extra +1 to damage, but I think that's balanced well by the extra 4200gp. heh Oh, the finesse bonus applies as an attack bonus for this too. I should have added that in. So, if you make a +2 finesse longsword with keen, it would cost 18,615gp total. [/QUOTE]
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