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<blockquote data-quote="DalkonCledwin" data-source="post: 6031817" data-attributes="member: 6680145"><p>If Strongtail were a requirement or even simply allowed, I could do the following with a Strongtail Merfolk:</p><p></p><p>Level 1 Oracle (Flame) with the Cinder Dance revelation suddenly Strongtail Mermaid has a movement speed of 25 feet per round.</p><p></p><p>and Level 1 Barbarian with the Fast Movement Job ability, suddenly the Oracle/Barbarian Strongtail Merfolk has a movement speed of 35 feet per round while not wearing heavy armor.</p><p></p><p>At any point take the Fleet Feat and gain a 40 foot per round movement speed so long as you don't carry a medium or heavy load.</p><p></p><p>This 40 foot per round movement speed Mermaid is what I think the Judges are worried about. That combined with all their other traits, makes the Merfolk perhaps the most powerful race in the game. As it is, the most speed on a merfolk I can hope for is 30 feet, thats still alot, but it also requires a bit of investment either way.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Oh, and I am also pretty sure those movement speed buffs also apply to the Mermaid's swim speed. So in effect we would have a mermaid capable of moving faster in the water than a typical mermaid, and one which is capable of moving faster on land than the typical Elf, Human, Half-Elf or Half-Orc...</p><p></p><p>EDIT2: I just double checked. Barbarian's fast movement is the only one of the three that indicates land speed. The other two indicate "base speed" so they could theoretically apply to both a mermaid's swim and land speed as they both count as base speeds for a mermaid, I think. Which if true, would mean that a Stouttail Merfolk with 1 level of Flame Oracle and the Cinder Dance Revelation, as well as the Fleet feat, and 1 level of Barbarian would have the equivalent of a land speed of 40 feet, and a swim speed of 45 feet. Which is only slightly worse in water than an average merfolk, and is significantly better on land than most merfolk. Additionally it means that your typical merfolk with the same abilities (not including the Stouttail trait) would have a land movement speed of 30 feet, and a swim movement rate of 65 feet. I believe we do have a merfolk in the game who has all of these, with the exception of Stouttail & a Barbarian level, which means her movement rate should be 20 feet on land, and 65 feet in the water, if I am getting my math correct.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DalkonCledwin, post: 6031817, member: 6680145"] If Strongtail were a requirement or even simply allowed, I could do the following with a Strongtail Merfolk: Level 1 Oracle (Flame) with the Cinder Dance revelation suddenly Strongtail Mermaid has a movement speed of 25 feet per round. and Level 1 Barbarian with the Fast Movement Job ability, suddenly the Oracle/Barbarian Strongtail Merfolk has a movement speed of 35 feet per round while not wearing heavy armor. At any point take the Fleet Feat and gain a 40 foot per round movement speed so long as you don't carry a medium or heavy load. This 40 foot per round movement speed Mermaid is what I think the Judges are worried about. That combined with all their other traits, makes the Merfolk perhaps the most powerful race in the game. As it is, the most speed on a merfolk I can hope for is 30 feet, thats still alot, but it also requires a bit of investment either way. EDIT: Oh, and I am also pretty sure those movement speed buffs also apply to the Mermaid's swim speed. So in effect we would have a mermaid capable of moving faster in the water than a typical mermaid, and one which is capable of moving faster on land than the typical Elf, Human, Half-Elf or Half-Orc... EDIT2: I just double checked. Barbarian's fast movement is the only one of the three that indicates land speed. The other two indicate "base speed" so they could theoretically apply to both a mermaid's swim and land speed as they both count as base speeds for a mermaid, I think. Which if true, would mean that a Stouttail Merfolk with 1 level of Flame Oracle and the Cinder Dance Revelation, as well as the Fleet feat, and 1 level of Barbarian would have the equivalent of a land speed of 40 feet, and a swim speed of 45 feet. Which is only slightly worse in water than an average merfolk, and is significantly better on land than most merfolk. Additionally it means that your typical merfolk with the same abilities (not including the Stouttail trait) would have a land movement speed of 30 feet, and a swim movement rate of 65 feet. I believe we do have a merfolk in the game who has all of these, with the exception of Stouttail & a Barbarian level, which means her movement rate should be 20 feet on land, and 65 feet in the water, if I am getting my math correct. [/QUOTE]
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