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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VelvetViolet" data-source="post: 6173566" data-attributes="member: 6686357">The ARG's race creation rules limit races to one of five or so attribute bonus/penalty spreads, rather than simply saying +/-2 equals so and so race points. I ran the math and compared the spreads to derive exactly that, and while the numbers checked out, the Advanced ability modifier spread was only half as expensive as it should have been.Increase a racial bonus from +2 to +4 (4 RP), Increase a racial bonus from +4 to +6 (5 RP), etc (same as the standard advanced ability traits)Add a +2 bonus to an ability that lacks an adjustment (2 RP) (under the standard rules this would cost 4 points)Remove an existing -2 racial penalty (1 RP) (again, this would cost 4 points under standard rules)Add a -2 penalty to an ability that lacks it or remove an existing +2 bonus from an ability (-1 RP) Standard (0): +2||+2/-2Human Heritage (0): +2 -> Remove the -2 (+1), Remove +2 (-1) = 0Paragon (1): +4||-2/-2/-2 -> Increase +2 to +4 (+4), Remove +2 (-1), Add -2/-2 (-2) = 1Specialized (1): +2/+2||-2 -> Remove +2 (-1), Add another +2 (+2) = 1Flexible (2): +2/+2 or +2||+2 -> Remove +2 (-1), Add another +2 (+2), Remove -2 (+1)  = 2Greater Paragon (2): +4/-2||-2 -> Increase to +4 (+4), Remove +2 (-1), Add -2 (-1) = 2Advanced (4): +2/+2/+2||+4/-2 ->  Increase to +4 (+4), Add +2/+2 (+4) = 8!No Modifiers (-1):  Remove the -2 (+1), Remove +2 (-1), Remove +2 (-1) = -1Weakness (-1): +2||+2/-4 -> Increase to -4 (-1) = -1Mixed Weakness (-2): +2/-2|+2/-4 -> Add -2 (-1), Increase to -4 (-1)Greater Weakness (-3): -4/-2/+2 -> Add -2 (-1), Increase to -4 (-1), Remove +2 (-1) = -3Using just the standard spread, it's impossible to alter it to resemble any other spread without being overcharged. Apparently, the Advanced spread has a discount for some reason.Overall I'm really dissatisfied with the race creation rules. The various traits weren't  fine-grained enough for general race creation and relied too much on  simply duplicating the standard races rather than deconstructing them:  abilities like gnome magic and pyromaniac and dozens of others are over-designed and sound  like they were added simply because they sounded cool rather than  broadly applicable, and those like illusion resistance or rodent empathy  are too specific when we should've had things like a bonus to saving  throws against or casting spells of X descriptor/school or a general  animal empathy power, and several abilities duplicate the same thing and  often at drastically different costs or at different race levels.</blockquote>

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