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<blockquote data-quote="Fishbone" data-source="post: 5698693" data-attributes="member: 40849">There is no way it worth 10, with Flexible being worth 2. You take +4 to one stat and -2 on others if it costs 10. Meanwhile, you can pretty much make an analog of almost any core race with goodness to spare off those 8 points. Madness to think Paragon is worth 10. I don't know what a good point base is without playtesting, but it is certainly not 1 or 10. Maybe 4 or 5.Edit: Some stuff that just kind of made me think... &quot;Yep, I want it.&quot;Fast. 10 foot UNTYPED bonus to speed, no prerequisites, for 1 point? Oh Hell yeah gimme that.The Dwarven racial trait Hardy, the +2 to saves on poison, spells and spell like abilities if the race has a bonus to Constitution. One of the hottest things in the game for 1 point.Weapon Familiarity yourself 2 of the best weapons, doesn't specifiy non-exotic, for 1 point. Two EWP feats for 1 point.Falcatas huzzuh!Stubborn is good, really good. +2 to almost all will saves and a once a day re-roll for 1 point. Hardy and Stubborn Fighters, Barbarians and Rangers, could we be seeing them soon? Yep.More expensive stuff at 4 that could, COULD BE worth it at 4 points+2 Racial bonuses to all savesAll around vision. Just quick thoughts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fishbone, post: 5698693, member: 40849"] There is no way it worth 10, with Flexible being worth 2. You take +4 to one stat and -2 on others if it costs 10. Meanwhile, you can pretty much make an analog of almost any core race with goodness to spare off those 8 points. Madness to think Paragon is worth 10. I don't know what a good point base is without playtesting, but it is certainly not 1 or 10. Maybe 4 or 5. Edit: Some stuff that just kind of made me think... "Yep, I want it." Fast. 10 foot UNTYPED bonus to speed, no prerequisites, for 1 point? Oh Hell yeah gimme that. The Dwarven racial trait Hardy, the +2 to saves on poison, spells and spell like abilities if the race has a bonus to Constitution. One of the hottest things in the game for 1 point. Weapon Familiarity yourself 2 of the best weapons, doesn't specifiy non-exotic, for 1 point. Two EWP feats for 1 point. Falcatas huzzuh! Stubborn is good, really good. +2 to almost all will saves and a once a day re-roll for 1 point. Hardy and Stubborn Fighters, Barbarians and Rangers, could we be seeing them soon? Yep. More expensive stuff at 4 that could, COULD BE worth it at 4 points +2 Racial bonuses to all saves All around vision. Just quick thoughts. [/QUOTE]

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