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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3778036" data-attributes="member: 467">Here's the rub, of course -- in 4E, they are working to get rid of the "simple soldier" and "magic student" archetypes as starting PCs -- 1st level characters are to be exceptional and heroic from day one.I think the only reason they went with the 30 levels in the same time frame as 20 levels paradigm is that power-ups and level-bennies are fun.  they could have just as easily scaled the game back to where dragons only had 100 hit points and made 10 levels the optimal, 1 year of play point and the game still would ahve been fun -- and there'd be the added benefit of players actually getting to play with the characters' abilities for more than 1 1/2 sessions before being loaded down with yet more options.</blockquote>