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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3778051" data-attributes="member: 4937">There is a lot of truth to that, but, less obviously, if the leveling is too fast, such growth is never seen either.&nbsp;&nbsp; The growth isn't defined by the mechanical differences in a comparison between the start and the end.&nbsp; The growth is defined by things that you do, and a certain amount of activity has to occur for the change to have meaningful points of reference.&nbsp; If you level up too quickly, you were never meaningfully just starting out, meaningfully maturing, meaningful coming into your own.&nbsp; It was just sort of dropped in your lap, and there it was.&nbsp; My experience as a third edition player compared to a first edition player is not even having time to creatively use the toys I have, before getting new toys.&nbsp; I was looking forward not to leveling up, but with overcoming various challenges before levelling up.&nbsp; Part of the fun of Christmas or Birthdays or whatever is that it doesn't happen all the time.&nbsp;&nbsp; I got were I dreaded leveling up, because I didn't feel like I'd proven anything.&nbsp; Great, I just got third level spells.&nbsp; I might cast them five or six times, and then all the sudden I'm getting fourth level spells.&nbsp; I just got a feat, and it hasn't even made a significant difference, and now I'm selecting a new feat.&nbsp; I hated that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 3778051, member: 4937"] There is a lot of truth to that, but, less obviously, if the leveling is [i]too fast[/i], such growth is never seen either. The growth isn't defined by the mechanical differences in a comparison between the start and the end. The growth is defined by things that you do, and a certain amount of activity has to occur for the change to have meaningful points of reference. If you level up too quickly, you were never meaningfully just starting out, meaningfully maturing, meaningful coming into your own. It was just sort of dropped in your lap, and there it was. My experience as a third edition player compared to a first edition player is not even having time to creatively use the toys I have, before getting new toys. I was looking forward not to leveling up, but with overcoming various challenges before levelling up. Part of the fun of Christmas or Birthdays or whatever is that it doesn't happen all the time. I got were I dreaded leveling up, because I didn't feel like I'd proven anything. Great, I just got third level spells. I might cast them five or six times, and then all the sudden I'm getting fourth level spells. I just got a feat, and it hasn't even made a significant difference, and now I'm selecting a new feat. I hated that. [/QUOTE]

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