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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shiroiken" data-source="post: 7551709" data-attributes="member: 6775477">Something else to consider is that 5E's style is much closer to a return to AD&D in the amount of DM control. A majority of the game is left to the DM to make determinations, rather than trying to have a rule for everything. This means that everything is more fluid, limiting a lot of rules lawyering, but can allow a lot of arguments (unless the DM puts his foot down). This can be a big shift from 3E and 4E players IME.Final note (unrelated to current topic, but important): 5E was playtested to fit the widest possible player base. That doesn't mean that it's right for you or your group. If you don't enjoy it, there's nothing wrong with staying with 3E or switching to Pathfinder (which was based on 3E mechanics). Hopefully you do enjoy it though!</blockquote>