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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1296972" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>Danke... it appears Kirin is in a bit of a metagame bind here... Back when she detected magic on the feral at the roadwarden, you said <span style="color: royalblue">"The Detect showed residual Transmutation and ENchantment magic, very faint and of a Divine nature. It would seem that whatever changed them is permanent." </span> That rules out a strict Curse, but depending on whether you meant truely permanent or the spell desciptor permanent, not neccassarily using Remove Curse or possibly Dispel Magic. The (new?) wording of Break Enchantment has it effecting even instantaneuous effects, but a scroll of such is both expensive and risky. You've also introduced ritual magic... can kirin learn a ritual to undo the effect on a captured feral? does she need a feat for it? A cabal? is it just for evil and bloody altars?</p><p></p><p>Hence the need for research, unless this information is readily available to her using knowlege arcane/religious. (She's gonna need a live feral eventually too... a dead one could be of some use, but I don't know if kirin has sufficient diplomacy to borrow a slain monk... damn it, gentle repose is 2nd level!) </p><p></p><p>So I need some direct metagame input here on how Kirin's quest for knowlege would proceed...</p><p></p><p>Kahuna Burger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1296972, member: 8439"] Danke... it appears Kirin is in a bit of a metagame bind here... Back when she detected magic on the feral at the roadwarden, you said [COLOR=royalblue]"The Detect showed residual Transmutation and ENchantment magic, very faint and of a Divine nature. It would seem that whatever changed them is permanent." [/COLOR] That rules out a strict Curse, but depending on whether you meant truely permanent or the spell desciptor permanent, not neccassarily using Remove Curse or possibly Dispel Magic. The (new?) wording of Break Enchantment has it effecting even instantaneuous effects, but a scroll of such is both expensive and risky. You've also introduced ritual magic... can kirin learn a ritual to undo the effect on a captured feral? does she need a feat for it? A cabal? is it just for evil and bloody altars? Hence the need for research, unless this information is readily available to her using knowlege arcane/religious. (She's gonna need a live feral eventually too... a dead one could be of some use, but I don't know if kirin has sufficient diplomacy to borrow a slain monk... damn it, gentle repose is 2nd level!) So I need some direct metagame input here on how Kirin's quest for knowlege would proceed... Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]
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