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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dekana" data-source="post: 5190259" data-attributes="member: 57009">[sblock=ooc]The text of Divine Challenge isn't clear either way. It reads "it takes damage... the first time it makes an attack that doesn't include you as a target before the start of your next turn." It's not classified as either a reaction or an interrupt. I would personally rule it as:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vine makes attack roll against Alnar.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vine takes divine challenge damage.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Vine dies.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><s>Deal damage to Alnar.</s></li> </ol>The vine dies before it gets the chance to deal damage. But like I said, the text is extraordinarily unclear on this point. It's just as valid to say "attack" means the whole attacking power, damage included. Some DMs don't like that my interpretation removes the possibility of making a final meaningful attack in defiance of the mark.One other issue is that Divine Challenge states the damage occurs "the first time it makes an attack... before the start of your next turn." Someone might argue that this means a creature can only ever take damage from DC once, but I think the intent is pretty clear: damage once per turn, before the start of your next turn. Divine Challenge was worded that way in the playtest, and Divine Sanction is worded exactly like that. (The enworld / gleemax threads I've looked at are almost entirely in agreement on this. Otherwise, paladins would be forced to run around challenging different targets each round, and they would be awful against solo creatures.)[/sblock]</blockquote>

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