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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 5836787" data-attributes="member: 20741">That's been discussed here on other threads (look further down the page) and on Paizo's Message Boards ad nauseum. Everybody has their own take, though I can agree that RotRL and Kingmaker get the most love -- at least until Skull and Shackles is released. I'm hopeful that will be more entertaining than Kingmaker was in the long term.As for Carrion Crown, most of the installments are good, but it suffers from Theme Park Ride design. The plot which drives the PCs from one zone to the next is a reactive follow-the-bad-guy-because-we-don't- really-understand-what-they-are-up-to-yet trope. It feels tenuous and leaves the various volumes feeling a little bit unconnected as an overall AP.  You can fix that and improve upon it to be sure, but that's the difficulty with Carrion Crown as written.While I really liked the Haunting of Harrowstone (final encounter excepted) I'm not such a fan of the Carrion Crown AP overall. There are better APs to go with first. For a first timer, I'd go with Council of Thieves to book 4 -- end the campaign after book 4 -- then start a new AP with Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition.I can't recommend Skull and Shackles yet as it's not out. But I'm hopeful as all hell! I wouldn't start at Kingmaker as your fist AP. As an AP -- it's greatest weakness is that it is too damn long.  Even playing weekly and allowing for a half dozen cancellations a year, you can easily spend 18 to 24 months playing Kingmaker.  Now, some may see that as good value for your money. For me? I want something that falls between 9 months and 15 months total to play, assuming weekly play with 9 cancellations over 18 months - so call that 56 sessions or so, maybe 60 if cancellations arte kept to a minimum. About ten sessions a book, MAX is my limit. More than that and my interest tends to flag and what was new and exciting has long since devolved into been there, done that, power gamer masturbation. Just not my cuppa.</blockquote>

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