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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Darksteed" data-source="post: 5023853" data-attributes="member: 85506">OOC: Sorry I have to do this now, but I'd like to point somethings out that are wrong here as per the books. Dang't at the end of your last turn you dropped prone. It takes a move action to Stand Up from prone, or you can crawl half your speed.Since the crates are 10 feet tall it requires an acrobatics check to hop down off them and not fall prone and take a d10 of damage. This is the biggest thing Stealth. To maintain stealth and gain combat advantage you must at least have Concealment or cover (and not cover from an ally), or the creature has no line of sight to you.  Moving to H31 is in the middle of the room, that's no more stealth. Plus if you move more then 2 squares well stealthed you have to reroll stealth with the -5 for moving more then two squares. You may only roll stealth after a move action and you must have Superior Cover or Total Concealment. So you wouldn't be able to drop prone and roll stealth, sorry. Last dropping prone is a minor action. Sorry to harp on anyone at all. I know this is no way to make friends in the least. Though I enjoy playing the game as it was meant to be played. Stealth is a powerful tool, just don't wish it to be broken. Sorry once again.And yes rolling an active perception is a Minor Action[sblock=Perception]Perception (Nov. 09, Errata)Page 186: In the Perception section of the shadedtext, replace “standard action” with “minor action” inthe third sentence.Perception: No action required—either you noticesomething or you don’t. Your DM usually uses yourpassive Perception check result. If you want to usethe skill actively, you need to take a minor action orspend 1 minute listening or searching, depending onthe task.[/sblock][sblock=Prone]Prone (Nov. 09, Errata)Page 277: Add “You can’t move from your space,although you can teleport, crawl, or be forced to moveby a pull, a push, or a slide.”PRONE!! You grant combat advantage to enemies makingmelee attacks against you.!! You can’t move from your space, although you canteleport, crawl, or be forced to move by a pull, apush, or a slide.!! You get a +2 bonus to all defenses against rangedattacks from nonadjacent enemies.!! You’re lying on the ground. (If you’re flying, yousafely descend a distance equal to your fly speed. Ifyou don’t reach the ground, you fall.)!! You take a –2 penalty to attack rolls.!! You can drop prone as a minor action.[/sblock][sblock=Stand Up]Stand Up (PHB pg. 292)If you’ve been knocked prone, you need to take a moveaction to get back on your feet.STAND UP: MOVE ACTION✦ Unoccupied Space: If your space is not occupied byanother creature, you stand up where you are.✦ Occupied Space: If your space is occupied byanother creature, you can shift 1 square, as part ofthis move action, to stand up in an adjacent unoccupiedspace. If your space and all adjacent squares areoccupied by other creatures, you can’t stand up.[/sblock][sblock=Crawl]Crawl (PHB pg. 288)When you are prone, you can crawl.CRAWL: MOVE ACTION✦ Prone: You must be prone to crawl.✦ Movement: Move up to half your speed.✦ Provoke Opportunity Attacks: If you leave asquare adjacent to an enemy, that enemy can makean opportunity attack against you.[/sblock][sblock=Falling]Falling (PHB pg> 284)Some kinds of terrain present a unique danger: a precipitousdrop. When you fall at least 10 feet, you takedamage.FALLING✦ Falling Damage: You take 1d10 damage for each10 feet you fall.Fast Alternative: If you fall more than 50 feet, take25 damage per 50 feet, plus 1d10 per 10 extra feet.✦ Prone: You fall prone when you land, unless youtake no damage from the fall.✦ Jumping Down: If you are trained in Acrobatics, youcan make a check to reduce the amount of damageyou take from a fall. See page 181.✦ Catching Yourself: If a power or a bull rush (page287) forces you over a precipice or into a pit, you canimmediately make a saving throw to avoid going overthe edge. This saving throw works just like a normalsaving throw, except you make it as soon as youreach the edge, not at the end of your turn.Lower than 10: Failure. You fall over the edge.10 or higher: Success. You fall prone at the edge,in the last square you occupied before you wouldhave fallen. The forced movement ends.✦ Large, Huge, and Gargantuan Creatures: If onlypart of a creature’s space is over a pit or a precipice,the creature doesn’t fall.[/sblock][sblock=Stealth]Stealth (Nov. 09, Errata)Page 188: Replace the shaded text with the followingtext.Stealth: At the end of a move action.! Opposed Check: Stealth vs. passive Perception. Ifmultiple enemies are present, your Stealth checkis opposed by each enemy’s passive Perceptioncheck. If you move more than 2 squares during themove action, you take a –5 penalty to the Stealthcheck. If you run, the penalty is –10.! Becoming Hidden: You can make a Stealth checkagainst an enemy only if you have superior coveror total concealment against the enemy or if you’reoutside the enemy’s line of sight. Outside combat,the DM can allow you to make a Stealth checkagainst a distracted enemy, even if you don’t havesuperior cover or total concealment and aren’t outsidethe enemy’s line of sight. The distracted enemymight be focused on something in a different direction,allowing you to sneak up.! Success: You are hidden, which means you aresilent and invisible to the enemy (see “Concealment”and “Targeting What You Can’t See,” page281).! Failure: You can try again at the end of anothermove action.! Remaining Hidden: You remain hidden as long asyou meet these requirements.Keep Out of Sight: If you no longer have any coveror concealment against an enemy, you don’t remainhidden from that enemy. You don’t need superiorcover, total concealment, or to stay outside line ofsight, but you do need some degree of cover or concealmentto remain hidden. You can’t use anothercreature as cover to remain hidden.Keep Quiet: If you speak louder than a whisperor otherwise draw attention to yourself, you don’tremain hidden from any enemy that can hear you.Keep Still: If you move more than 2 squaresduring an action, you must make a new Stealthcheck with a –5 penalty. If you run, the penalty is–10. If any enemy’s passive Perception check beatsyour check result, you don’t remain hidden fromthat enemy.Don’t Attack: If you attack, you don’t remain hidden.! Not Remaining Hidden: If you take an action thatcauses you not to remain hidden, you retain thebenefits of being hidden until you resolve the action.You can’t become hidden again as part of that sameaction.! Enemy Activity: An enemy can try to find you onits turn. If an enemy makes an active Perceptioncheck and beats your Stealth check result (don’tmake a new check), you don’t remain hidden fromthat enemy. Also, if an enemy tries to enter yourspace, you don’t remain hidden from that enemy.✦Combat Advantage: You have combat advantageagainst a target that isn’t aware of you.✦ Light Source: Observers automatically see you ifyou’re carrying a light source.[/sblock][sblock=Cover]Cover (PHB pg. 280)Enemies behind a low wall, around a corner, or behinda tree enjoy some amount of cover; you can’t hit themas easily as you normally could.COVER✦ Cover (–2 Penalty to Attack Rolls): The targetis around a corner or protected by terrain. Forexample, the target might be in the same squareas a small tree, obscured by a small pillar or a largepiece of furniture, or behind a low wall.✦ Superior Cover (–5 Penalty to Attack Rolls): Thetarget is protected by a significant terrain advantage,such as when fighting from behind a window, aportcullis, a grate, or an arrow slit.✦ Area Attacks and Close Attacks: When you makean area attack or a close attack, a target has coverif there is an obstruction between the origin squareand the target, not between you and the target.✦ Reach: If a creature that has reach attacks throughterrain that would grant cover if the target were init, the target has cover. For example, even if you’renot in the same square as a small pillar, it gives youcover from the attack of an ogre on the other side ofthe pillar.✦ Creatures and Cover: When you make a rangedattack against an enemy and other enemies arein the way, your target has cover. Your allies nevergrant cover to your enemies, and neither allies norenemies give cover against melee, close, or areaattacks.✦ Determining Cover: To determine if a target hascover, choose a corner of a square you occupy (ora corner of your attack’s origin square) and traceimaginary lines from that corner to every cornerof any one square the target occupies. If one ortwo of those lines are blocked by an obstacle or anenemy, the target has cover. (A line isn’t blocked if itruns along the edge of an obstacle’s or an enemy’ssquare.) If three or four of those lines are blocked butyou have line of effect, the target has superior cover.[/sblock][sblock=Concealment]Concealment (PHB pg. 281)If you can’t get a good look at your target, it has concealmentfrom you, which means your attack rolls takea penalty against that target. You might be fighting inan area of dim light (see “Vision and Light,” page 262),in an area filled with smoke or mist, or among terrainfeatures that get in the way of your vision, such asfoliage.OBSCURED SQUARES✦ Lightly Obscured: Squares of dim light, foliage,fog, smoke, heavy falling snow, or rain are lightlyobscured.✦ Heavily Obscured: Squares of heavy fog, heavysmoke, or heavy foliage are heavily obscured.✦ Totally Obscured: Squares of darkness are totallyobscured.Effects that cause concealment obscure vision withoutpreventing attacks.CONCEALMENT✦ Concealment (–2 Penalty to Attack Rolls): Thetarget is in a lightly obscured square or in a heavilyobscured square but adjacent to you.✦ Total Concealment (–5 Penalty to Attack Rolls):You can’t see the target. The target is invisible, ina totally obscured square, or in a heavily obscuredsquare and not adjacent to you.✦ Melee Attacks and Ranged Attacks Only: Attackpenalties from concealment apply only to the targetsof melee or ranged attacks.Part of the challenge of attacking a target you can’tsee is knowing where to direct your attack. You haveto choose a square to attack, and the target might noteven be in that square (see “Targeting What You Can’tSee,” below).A variety of powers and other effects can render youinvisible, effectively giving you total concealment.[/sblock][sblock=Climb]Climb (PHB pg. 182)Make an Athletics check to climb up or down a surface.Different circumstances and surfaces makeclimbing easier or harder.Climb: Part of a move action.✦ DC: See the table. If you use a climber’s kit, you geta +2 bonus to your Athletics check. If you can braceyourself between two surfaces, you get a +5 bonusto your check.✦ Success: You climb at one-half your speed. Whenyou climb to reach the top of a surface, such as whenyou climb out of a pit, the distance to reach the topincludes allowing you to arrive in the square adjacentto the surface. The last square of movementplaces you on that square.✦ Fail by 4 or Less: You stay where you started andlose the rest of your move action, but you don’t fall.You can try again as part of a move action.✦ Fail by 5 or More: You fall (see “Falling,” page 284)and lose the rest of your move action.✦ Grant Combat Advantage: While you are climbing,all enemies have combat advantage against you.✦ Uses Movement: Count the number of squares youclimb as part of your move.✦ Taking Damage: If you take damage while climbing,you must make a Climb check using the DC for thesurface you’re climbing. If that damage makes youbloodied, increase the DC by 5. If you fail the check,you fall from your current height. If you try to catchhold when you fall, add the damage you take to theDC to catch yourself.✦ Catch Hold: If you fall while climbing, you can makean Athletics check as a free action to catch hold ofsomething to stop your fall. The base DC to catchhold of something is the DC of the surface you wereclimbing plus 5, modified by circumstances. You canmake one check to catch hold. If you fail, you can’ttry again unless the DM rules otherwise.✦ Climb Speed: While climbing, creatures that havea climb speed (such as monstrous spiders) use thatspeed, ignore difficult terrain, do not grant combatadvantage because of climbing, and do not makeAthletics checks to climb.[/sblock]</blockquote>

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