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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 7144573" data-attributes="member: 71699"><p>I feel like this runs into the problem of supposing our world is much like one where there are individuals with the power of an Abrams tank or Apache helicopter. There's no way to know of course: one argument is as good as another. Possibly we need to regard wealth in our world as equivalent to XP in a D&D world. But I digress, my focus is what I believe will work best as our PCs level up.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Xanathar is a great case in point. Based on CR he's tier 3, him or one of his predecessors having slain the previous tier 3 incumbent. And he controls one organisation in a larger polity ruled until recently by an epic tier character class individual. Among Xanathar's servants are characters like Shindia, tier 2 Rogue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It sounds like our actual approaches are quite similar. This was the point I was making about "misleading", which ironically seems to have misled <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> If by adventurers we mean individuals with character class levels, then there are lots of adventurers at all tiers. If we mean only those individuals who are actively adventuring, then that is a subset of the former. So, where the post I critiqued says that there are five or fewer tier 4 people, if that is understood to mean that of all the many tier 4 people, only 5 or fewer are adventuring, then that seems to low ball it but fine. If on the other hand it is understood to mean that there are 5 or fewer tier 4 people full stop, then that is misleading. Seeing as we're discussing D&D I feel here it's valid to make the straightforward observation that there are more than 5 <em>epic </em>tier characters in the Forgotten Realms, and a great many more tier 4. Of course, we don't all use Faerun but it stands in stark contradiction to the post I critiqued.</p><p></p><p>It goes without saying (or should, but perhaps here there is a need to repeat it) that every group decides for themselves on these matters. However, I would urge going deeper than the simplistic - adventurers are rare as hens' teeth approach. There is more nuance available than that. And that nuance can pay off in opportunities to better engage and challenge players as they level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 7144573, member: 71699"] I feel like this runs into the problem of supposing our world is much like one where there are individuals with the power of an Abrams tank or Apache helicopter. There's no way to know of course: one argument is as good as another. Possibly we need to regard wealth in our world as equivalent to XP in a D&D world. But I digress, my focus is what I believe will work best as our PCs level up. Xanathar is a great case in point. Based on CR he's tier 3, him or one of his predecessors having slain the previous tier 3 incumbent. And he controls one organisation in a larger polity ruled until recently by an epic tier character class individual. Among Xanathar's servants are characters like Shindia, tier 2 Rogue. It sounds like our actual approaches are quite similar. This was the point I was making about "misleading", which ironically seems to have misled :) If by adventurers we mean individuals with character class levels, then there are lots of adventurers at all tiers. If we mean only those individuals who are actively adventuring, then that is a subset of the former. So, where the post I critiqued says that there are five or fewer tier 4 people, if that is understood to mean that of all the many tier 4 people, only 5 or fewer are adventuring, then that seems to low ball it but fine. If on the other hand it is understood to mean that there are 5 or fewer tier 4 people full stop, then that is misleading. Seeing as we're discussing D&D I feel here it's valid to make the straightforward observation that there are more than 5 [I]epic [/I]tier characters in the Forgotten Realms, and a great many more tier 4. Of course, we don't all use Faerun but it stands in stark contradiction to the post I critiqued. It goes without saying (or should, but perhaps here there is a need to repeat it) that every group decides for themselves on these matters. However, I would urge going deeper than the simplistic - adventurers are rare as hens' teeth approach. There is more nuance available than that. And that nuance can pay off in opportunities to better engage and challenge players as they level. [/QUOTE]
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