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<blockquote data-quote="IlluminatedSeraph" data-source="post: 6771333" data-attributes="member: 6803508"><p>@<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=70203" target="_blank">skerritthegreen</a></u></strong></em></p><p></p><p>I'm going to stand on my statement at the end of my post: that makes for a very odd reading of the OP's post and comments, and one that doesn't match the tone of his remarks at all, which sits very awkwardly with your suggestion that we "focus on the original thoughts." His original thoughts are very directly about his personal definitions of offensiveness and his reaction to interacting with people he obviously didn't care for - not just in their running of the game, but personally. A certain amount of side talk is going to be part of any game, which is natural and not a problem as long as it isn't excessive, and the attitude of the OP suggests that his measure of excessive on polyamory or other topics he doesn't approve of is likely to be "more than zero." The emphasis he places in his remarks on the "disgusting" and "profane" nature of the conversation makes it seem like he'd have a lot less of a problem with it if people had been having a side-chat about when they were getting their copies of Fallout 4, and that goes pretty directly to Pauper's comments about bringing a hostile attitude into the space.</p><p></p><p>As for your offense, I'm going to paraphrase Roland Barthes - the author is very much dead on the internet. Whether you personally are squeamish, have a problem with poly people or are <em>trying </em>to engage in erasure, I don't pretend to know and make no assumptions about. What you wrote, however, is squeamish (in that in engages in distancing language and refuses to even name the issue under discussion) and tries to remove the personal experience <em>regarding AL gaming and the stuff the OP is discussing </em>and identities of people in the thread from conversation as irrelevant or not fit for discussion (which is erasure). That's there in what you wrote, regardless of how you meant it, and if you don't like the implications.... well, that's difficult for you and I'm sorry.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, you and I can continue this in PM if that's important, but back to the OP: a store that fronts one or more AL games obviously has an interest in the tone and character of the people they choose to use as DMs, so the expectation that one is going to get not just one but multiple chances to run AL games is probably not a good one to have. Conversely, a store that routinely has more players looking than people it can seat has a problem. While taking anyone willing to run may not be the solution to that problem, it isn't a sign of a strongly organized OP site. The fact that the DM in question then took the bulk of the gaming group home for more of the same session and/or more gaming - and that the store doesn't seem to have a problem with this - suggests that the store is less interested in having an organized play game or set of games going than it is accommodating a group of patrons who've expressed an interest. Altogether, not a great set-up. </p><p></p><p>That being said, the OP is probably best off looking for a different store regardless and we're probably best off taking his feedback with a grain of salt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IlluminatedSeraph, post: 6771333, member: 6803508"] @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=70203"]skerritthegreen[/URL][/U][/B][/I] I'm going to stand on my statement at the end of my post: that makes for a very odd reading of the OP's post and comments, and one that doesn't match the tone of his remarks at all, which sits very awkwardly with your suggestion that we "focus on the original thoughts." His original thoughts are very directly about his personal definitions of offensiveness and his reaction to interacting with people he obviously didn't care for - not just in their running of the game, but personally. A certain amount of side talk is going to be part of any game, which is natural and not a problem as long as it isn't excessive, and the attitude of the OP suggests that his measure of excessive on polyamory or other topics he doesn't approve of is likely to be "more than zero." The emphasis he places in his remarks on the "disgusting" and "profane" nature of the conversation makes it seem like he'd have a lot less of a problem with it if people had been having a side-chat about when they were getting their copies of Fallout 4, and that goes pretty directly to Pauper's comments about bringing a hostile attitude into the space. As for your offense, I'm going to paraphrase Roland Barthes - the author is very much dead on the internet. Whether you personally are squeamish, have a problem with poly people or are [I]trying [/I]to engage in erasure, I don't pretend to know and make no assumptions about. What you wrote, however, is squeamish (in that in engages in distancing language and refuses to even name the issue under discussion) and tries to remove the personal experience [I]regarding AL gaming and the stuff the OP is discussing [/I]and identities of people in the thread from conversation as irrelevant or not fit for discussion (which is erasure). That's there in what you wrote, regardless of how you meant it, and if you don't like the implications.... well, that's difficult for you and I'm sorry. Anyway, you and I can continue this in PM if that's important, but back to the OP: a store that fronts one or more AL games obviously has an interest in the tone and character of the people they choose to use as DMs, so the expectation that one is going to get not just one but multiple chances to run AL games is probably not a good one to have. Conversely, a store that routinely has more players looking than people it can seat has a problem. While taking anyone willing to run may not be the solution to that problem, it isn't a sign of a strongly organized OP site. The fact that the DM in question then took the bulk of the gaming group home for more of the same session and/or more gaming - and that the store doesn't seem to have a problem with this - suggests that the store is less interested in having an organized play game or set of games going than it is accommodating a group of patrons who've expressed an interest. Altogether, not a great set-up. That being said, the OP is probably best off looking for a different store regardless and we're probably best off taking his feedback with a grain of salt. [/QUOTE]
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