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<blockquote data-quote="Stoat" data-source="post: 4707719" data-attributes="member: 16786">You know, the fishing metaphor should be obvious, but never occurred to me until you used the word &quot;lure&quot;.&nbsp; I've always thought of a hook in the context of D&amp;D as something the players grab and hang on to.&nbsp; The idea that the DM uses the hook the way a fisherman would went right past me.&nbsp; I'm not sure I see the difference, at least from a practical point of view.&nbsp; If the players go into the Caves of Chaos and encounter the Minotaur, that's an adventure.&nbsp; AFAICT, it's an adventure whether the players went to the caves in pursuit of their own goals, whether they chose to go there after considering numerous hooks placed by the DM, or whether the DM simply said, &quot;the game starts in front of the Caves of Chaos.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; In other words, the distinction to me seems to be less in the series of occurrences (the adventure) than in the motivation/force that put that series of occurrences into motion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stoat, post: 4707719, member: 16786"] You know, the fishing metaphor should be obvious, but never occurred to me until you used the word "lure". I've always thought of a hook in the context of D&D as something the players grab and hang on to. The idea that the DM uses the hook the way a fisherman would went right past me. I'm not sure I see the difference, at least from a practical point of view. If the players go into the Caves of Chaos and encounter the Minotaur, that's an adventure. AFAICT, it's an adventure whether the players went to the caves in pursuit of their own goals, whether they chose to go there after considering numerous hooks placed by the DM, or whether the DM simply said, "the game starts in front of the Caves of Chaos." In other words, the distinction to me seems to be less in the series of occurrences (the adventure) than in the motivation/force that put that series of occurrences into motion. [/QUOTE]

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