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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 4499375" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>Double sword vs. Rapier vs. Parrying Dagger vs spiked shield vs. ordinary Dagger.</p><p></p><p>Double Sword</p><p>One feat. Defensive bonus. Same damage, access to HBO, and TWF and TWD, possible synergy with ranger multiclass.</p><p></p><p>Rapier</p><p>Second hand is free. Carry a ranged weapon for more flexibility. Carry a shield for more defense. (Three feats (Rapier, light shield, heavy shield) add a +3 weapon with d8 damage and a +2 AC bonus just like the double sword (double sword, TWF, TWD) but also give a +2 reflex defense bonus).</p><p></p><p>Parrying Dagger</p><p>One free hand for a ranged weapon or shortsword. Same defensive bonus as the double sword. +4 attack bonus thanks to rogue proficiency. If you want, you can carry an ordinary dagger in the other hand and have a ranged weapon that you don't need to draw while qualifying for TWF and TWD.</p><p></p><p>Spiked Shield</p><p>+1 AC and +1 reflex. And you can still take TWF and TWD and enjoy the +4 proficiency bonus of your dagger.</p><p></p><p>Ordinary dagger.</p><p>Is a ranged weapon. +4 proficiency bonus. No feats.</p><p></p><p>Of all of these options, the only one that the double sword is clearly superior to is the rapier... if you don't plan to pick up a shield. Rapier and Heavy shield, while it sounds odd and ahistorical, is a viable defensive alternative to the double sword that trades +1 damage for +2 reflex defense and an armor check penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 4499375, member: 3146"] Double sword vs. Rapier vs. Parrying Dagger vs spiked shield vs. ordinary Dagger. Double Sword One feat. Defensive bonus. Same damage, access to HBO, and TWF and TWD, possible synergy with ranger multiclass. Rapier Second hand is free. Carry a ranged weapon for more flexibility. Carry a shield for more defense. (Three feats (Rapier, light shield, heavy shield) add a +3 weapon with d8 damage and a +2 AC bonus just like the double sword (double sword, TWF, TWD) but also give a +2 reflex defense bonus). Parrying Dagger One free hand for a ranged weapon or shortsword. Same defensive bonus as the double sword. +4 attack bonus thanks to rogue proficiency. If you want, you can carry an ordinary dagger in the other hand and have a ranged weapon that you don't need to draw while qualifying for TWF and TWD. Spiked Shield +1 AC and +1 reflex. And you can still take TWF and TWD and enjoy the +4 proficiency bonus of your dagger. Ordinary dagger. Is a ranged weapon. +4 proficiency bonus. No feats. Of all of these options, the only one that the double sword is clearly superior to is the rapier... if you don't plan to pick up a shield. Rapier and Heavy shield, while it sounds odd and ahistorical, is a viable defensive alternative to the double sword that trades +1 damage for +2 reflex defense and an armor check penalty. [/QUOTE]
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