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<blockquote data-quote="Ciaran" data-source="post: 642794" data-attributes="member: 756">Where did &quot;incompetent&quot; and &quot;sucky&quot; come from?&nbsp; Suboptimal != incompetent.&nbsp; There's a wide, wide gap between &quot;engineered for maximum efficiency in combat&quot; and &quot;should fall on his own sword to put himself out of his misery.&quot;Example: my 6th level illusionist just took Endurance for his latest feat.&nbsp; It's not the optimal choice; for that, he should have taken Greater Spell Focus (illusion).&nbsp; But it's still a useful feat, given that we do a lot of marching and often find outselves fatigued in combat.&nbsp; And my character has been doing a lot of marching and very little illusion-casting for the past several sessions, so taking the optimal choice, while good sense stat-wise, didn't make much sense story-wise.&nbsp; If I'd been going for &quot;sucky&quot;, I would have taken Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Urgrosh.That said, I think jgbrowning misspoke slightly when speaking of &quot;skills/feats/spells that don't improve their chance of survival&quot;.&nbsp; Any feat that's actually used is sure to benefit the character and the party in some way, though it may not provide as much benefit in combat.- Eric</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ciaran, post: 642794, member: 756"] Where did "incompetent" and "sucky" come from? Suboptimal != incompetent. There's a wide, wide gap between "engineered for maximum efficiency in combat" and "should fall on his own sword to put himself out of his misery." Example: my 6th level illusionist just took Endurance for his latest feat. It's not the optimal choice; for that, he should have taken Greater Spell Focus (illusion). But it's still a useful feat, given that we do a lot of marching and often find outselves [i]fatigued[/i] in combat. And my character has been doing a lot of marching and very little illusion-casting for the past several sessions, so taking the optimal choice, while good sense stat-wise, didn't make much sense story-wise. If I'd been going for "sucky", I would have taken Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Urgrosh. That said, I think jgbrowning misspoke slightly when speaking of "skills/feats/spells that don't improve their chance of survival". Any feat that's actually [i]used[/i] is sure to benefit the character and the party in some way, though it may not provide [i]as much[/i] benefit [i]in combat[/i]. - Eric [/QUOTE]

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