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<blockquote data-quote="Iron Sheep" data-source="post: 1414357" data-attributes="member: 4965"><p>Sadly, I believe that deathless frenzy isn't much use for undead: they are destroyed at 0 hp. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Although I guess it would be a reasonable house rule that an undead with deathless frenzy keeps on going until the frenzy stops.</p><p></p><p>As far as undead types go: death knight is always good for powerful fighter undead, but you might also look at curst (Monsters of Faerun, created by bestow curse + wish or miracle), or dread warriors (Unapproachable East). Bone creature or corpse creature from the Book of Vile Darkness are also possibilities.</p><p></p><p>A swordwraith from the Fiend Folio might be a good choice: gain strength damage with a melee attack and DR 10/magic and slashing which should put a but of a dent in the archer's attacks.</p><p></p><p>As for the others: a warmage might be a good choice for arcane caster from the easy-to-DM standpoint. You can cast like a sorcerer, but you don't even have to select most of the spells they know.</p><p></p><p>If you want to use the Book of Vile Darkness, the Warrior of Darkness might be a good prestige class for a warrior-type.</p><p></p><p>The monster of legend might be a good way to give the Wyverns a breath weapon and a few extra special abilities, although that would be applying the template to a Dragon.</p><p></p><p>Any further input on the "feel" of these characters: are they an undead orcish barbarian horde, or an organised militaristic group, or are they dripping with unspeakable evil?</p><p></p><p>Corran</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iron Sheep, post: 1414357, member: 4965"] Sadly, I believe that deathless frenzy isn't much use for undead: they are destroyed at 0 hp. :( Although I guess it would be a reasonable house rule that an undead with deathless frenzy keeps on going until the frenzy stops. As far as undead types go: death knight is always good for powerful fighter undead, but you might also look at curst (Monsters of Faerun, created by bestow curse + wish or miracle), or dread warriors (Unapproachable East). Bone creature or corpse creature from the Book of Vile Darkness are also possibilities. A swordwraith from the Fiend Folio might be a good choice: gain strength damage with a melee attack and DR 10/magic and slashing which should put a but of a dent in the archer's attacks. As for the others: a warmage might be a good choice for arcane caster from the easy-to-DM standpoint. You can cast like a sorcerer, but you don't even have to select most of the spells they know. If you want to use the Book of Vile Darkness, the Warrior of Darkness might be a good prestige class for a warrior-type. The monster of legend might be a good way to give the Wyverns a breath weapon and a few extra special abilities, although that would be applying the template to a Dragon. Any further input on the "feel" of these characters: are they an undead orcish barbarian horde, or an organised militaristic group, or are they dripping with unspeakable evil? Corran [/QUOTE]
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