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<blockquote data-quote="MetalBard" data-source="post: 2097405" data-attributes="member: 21904"><p>Heh... the problems (and benefits) with differing perceptions. Maybe I'm not in the adversarial camp and I view any player in game playing in that fashion as contentious.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't necessarily consider Dhistan contentious in the DM-Player relationship, but if I was a fellow player in that game, I might see him as contentious on a player to player level if my character's goals were getting crushed by his character's actions (the barbarian and the village example might be one of those). However, if all of that fits well into a plot or storyline (and doesn't dissolve into inter-party bickering) it could end up being a very fun game to play and Dhistan could be a very interesting person to role-play with.</p><p></p><p>Dhistan just seems to be role-playing a character motivated solely by the drive for power. I don't see that as a bad thing. The only problem would be claiming that Dhistan was playing a good character. Since you're not using alignments, I guess each character he plays falls to the darkness consistently and early on, so it's not a problem.</p><p></p><p>I guess if I were DMing that particular situation, I'd be very concerned about the other players' enjoyment of the game vis a vis Dhistan's in-character actions. I do see the distinction you are making, Rystil (and it's a very insightful and useful one), but I can see where an adversarial character could easily become a contentious player.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MetalBard, post: 2097405, member: 21904"] Heh... the problems (and benefits) with differing perceptions. Maybe I'm not in the adversarial camp and I view any player in game playing in that fashion as contentious. I wouldn't necessarily consider Dhistan contentious in the DM-Player relationship, but if I was a fellow player in that game, I might see him as contentious on a player to player level if my character's goals were getting crushed by his character's actions (the barbarian and the village example might be one of those). However, if all of that fits well into a plot or storyline (and doesn't dissolve into inter-party bickering) it could end up being a very fun game to play and Dhistan could be a very interesting person to role-play with. Dhistan just seems to be role-playing a character motivated solely by the drive for power. I don't see that as a bad thing. The only problem would be claiming that Dhistan was playing a good character. Since you're not using alignments, I guess each character he plays falls to the darkness consistently and early on, so it's not a problem. I guess if I were DMing that particular situation, I'd be very concerned about the other players' enjoyment of the game vis a vis Dhistan's in-character actions. I do see the distinction you are making, Rystil (and it's a very insightful and useful one), but I can see where an adversarial character could easily become a contentious player. [/QUOTE]
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