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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dwimmerlied" data-source="post: 6143374" data-attributes="member: 6706967">Nice, deep analysis. Thanks guys! Re; the swarmfighting feat, I just noticed that today and decided its a must. For a little more information, my players will be relatively new, with only a few sessions under their belt, but a good mix is presented. So far, (a really dumb) half orc barbarian, a human fighter, a wood elf 2handed fighter, an elf wizard and a half-elf druid. Perhaps a halfling rogue will join them. None are overly optimised at all.The basic set up so far is, on their first foray into the mines, catching the kobolds relatively unaware, the standard encounters will be something like this;20 kobolds armed with slings on scaffolding 20ft high. Their attack is only +3, and I think that they do only 1 or 2 damage on a hit. But the interesting thing is that they can concentrate attacks on one character at a time if they wish, and will do so particularly when someone attempts to climb the scaffolds. Even 1hp damage forces a climb check, and failure results in falling.I think that given 2 rounds, characters could overcome, say 10 (if the wizard uses something like sleep, the fighter types hit every round and the others hit once in two rounds). Of course, this could be quite swingy...The second element is that there is a gong that can be sounded that can bring up to 20 more kobolds (but often less) in 2 rounds from existing chambers. Further, one kobold assigned "sentry" can flee to another nearby mine and perhaps recruit more. Clever characters who spot this have a chance to stop it though.@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6681948" target="_blank">N'raac</a> ; regarding your last sentence: this is my devious plan. The second visit will see the kobolds become very devious indeed... [MENTION=22424]delericho[/MENTION]; Yeah I kind of anticipated the math would fall apart past the first couple of "doubling monster numbers adds +2 CR." I agree with you that the absence of crowd controls will make this much better!</blockquote>

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