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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4849889" data-attributes="member: 63763">Level 11 and Con 15 gives you steady shooter, that gives you +3 damage if you haven't moved since the end of your last turn (so, basically, shoot before you move for a damage increase). This is compared to the 11th level and Wis 15 feat for bow users that requires the person you attacking having no creatures with 3 squares of it and gives the same +3 to damage. [The crossbow feat is thus easier to pull off reliably]. Epic tier has bow mastery which gives the 19-20 crit range for bows and crossbows.&nbsp;There is also the rogue and drow feats relating to the hand crossbow. The rogue one let's you reload it one handed, which would let you wield a crossbow in one hand and a melee weapon or implement in the other (or both in the case of a songblade).&nbsp;I'm running a prescient bard (albeit with a bow). Having one of my at-wills be 'wasted' [by requiring me to pull an implement to keep up the damage/to-hit numbers] isn't too bad.&nbsp;Remember that you don't actually need an implement to cast an implement power, and at low levels you are really only missing out on a +1 to hit and damage (maybe an extra +1 to hit since you'd miss out on an expertise feat bonus). At later levels, you'd have taken more feats and found more magical items, both of which can help with the problems.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4849889, member: 63763"] Level 11 and Con 15 gives you steady shooter, that gives you +3 damage if you haven't moved since the end of your last turn (so, basically, shoot before you move for a damage increase). This is compared to the 11th level and Wis 15 feat for bow users that requires the person you attacking having no creatures with 3 squares of it and gives the same +3 to damage. [The crossbow feat is thus easier to pull off reliably]. Epic tier has bow mastery which gives the 19-20 crit range for bows and crossbows. There is also the rogue and drow feats relating to the hand crossbow. The rogue one let's you reload it one handed, which would let you wield a crossbow in one hand and a melee weapon or implement in the other (or both in the case of a songblade). I'm running a prescient bard (albeit with a bow). Having one of my at-wills be 'wasted' [by requiring me to pull an implement to keep up the damage/to-hit numbers] isn't too bad. Remember that you don't actually need an implement to cast an implement power, and at low levels you are really only missing out on a +1 to hit and damage (maybe an extra +1 to hit since you'd miss out on an expertise feat bonus). At later levels, you'd have taken more feats and found more magical items, both of which can help with the problems. [/QUOTE]

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