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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2174733" data-attributes="member: 19675">This may seem appropos of nothing but...One of the first major lessons I learned as an attorney was &quot;You can't help everyone.&quot;&nbsp; Sometimes, your client will just stupid himself into a bigger fine or a longer jail sentence.Continue playing with these guys, but have a private talk with the GM.&nbsp; Ask him to let actions have appropriate consequences, namely the &quot;4 D's&quot;- Dumb Decisions Deserve Death.&nbsp; If a human PC insists on using his Pankration wrestling skills (clad only in olive oil, like the Olympians) on a ghast you encounter, let his ass get paralyzed and save him, should you so desire.As another gaming buddy of mine frequently points out, one of his old parties encountered something EXTREMELY tough, so his FIRST action was &quot;Dave...I'm going to run for it!&quot;&nbsp; while the rest of the party charged.&nbsp; Action 2 was &quot;Did I mention I'm running?&nbsp; Good, I run some more.&quot;, and 3rd was &quot;Still running!&quot;&nbsp; Needless to say, that PC was among the few survivors.Eventually, your fellow gamers will wise up, or they will 4D themselves into rolling new PCs, and your veteran Rogue will impress the youngbloods with his stories of &quot;What not to do when fighting X.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2174733, member: 19675"] This may seem appropos of nothing but... One of the first major lessons I learned as an attorney was "You can't help everyone." Sometimes, your client will just stupid himself into a bigger fine or a longer jail sentence. Continue playing with these guys, but have a private talk with the GM. Ask him to let actions have appropriate consequences, namely the "4 D's"- Dumb Decisions Deserve Death. If a human PC insists on using his Pankration wrestling skills (clad only in olive oil, like the Olympians) on a ghast you encounter, let his ass get paralyzed and save him, should you so desire. As another gaming buddy of mine frequently points out, one of his old parties encountered something EXTREMELY tough, so his FIRST action was "Dave...I'm going to run for it!" while the rest of the party charged. Action 2 was "Did I mention I'm running? Good, I run some more.", and 3rd was "Still running!" Needless to say, that PC was among the few survivors. Eventually, your fellow gamers will wise up, or they will 4D themselves into rolling new PCs, and your veteran Rogue will impress the youngbloods with his stories of "What not to do when fighting X." [/QUOTE]

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