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<blockquote data-quote="Zelc" data-source="post: 6271762" data-attributes="member: 40496">If everyone in your group likes to power-game, then great!&nbsp; Treat them as higher level than they actually are when you're creating encounters and doling out XP.&nbsp; Let them know this ahead of time so they don't get upset when they receive less XP than usual.&nbsp; Tell them you want to make fights more interesting for them but keep the leveling pace roughly the same.&nbsp; You could also doll out XP on when they resolve plot lines rather than for winning fights.If some people in your group like to power-game and others don't, then it's harder.&nbsp; You should discuss this with them and spin it in terms of making the game enjoyable for everyone.&nbsp; You can challenge them to make powerful characters with weaker classes and more restrictions (see <a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=658.0" target="_blank">here</a> for a tier list for 3.5E; EDIT: <a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=11990.0" target="_blank">Here's</a> a tier list for Pathfinder).&nbsp; They'd likely be able to make some powerful characters, but they'd be less powerful and more limited in what they're good at.&nbsp; Alternatively, ask the min-maxers to play a supporting role in combat.&nbsp; Maybe the non-min-maxed Fighter would still be happy if the min-maxed Wizard locked things down for him to kill.&nbsp; Maybe the min-maxed character could play a trip-based Fighter who sets up the non-min-maxed Barbarian to smash the enemies.It seems like you've already talked to them and you've tried switching sides.&nbsp; Reducing the support they can draw on would certainly make things more challenging for them, but don't forget to still scale encounter CR's appropriately.That's the <a href="http://dictummortuum.blogspot.ca/2011/12/stormwind-fallacy.html" target="_blank">Stormwind Fallacy</a>.&nbsp; Roleplaying and min-maxing are not mutually exclusive.&nbsp; This is especially egregious because the OP even said his players want to role-play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zelc, post: 6271762, member: 40496"] If everyone in your group likes to power-game, then great! Treat them as higher level than they actually are when you're creating encounters and doling out XP. Let them know this ahead of time so they don't get upset when they receive less XP than usual. Tell them you want to make fights more interesting for them but keep the leveling pace roughly the same. You could also doll out XP on when they resolve plot lines rather than for winning fights. If some people in your group like to power-game and others don't, then it's harder. You should discuss this with them and spin it in terms of making the game enjoyable for everyone. You can challenge them to make powerful characters with weaker classes and more restrictions (see [URL="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=658.0"]here[/URL] for a tier list for 3.5E; EDIT: [URL="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=11990.0"]Here's[/URL] a tier list for Pathfinder). They'd likely be able to make some powerful characters, but they'd be less powerful and more limited in what they're good at. Alternatively, ask the min-maxers to play a supporting role in combat. Maybe the non-min-maxed Fighter would still be happy if the min-maxed Wizard locked things down for him to kill. Maybe the min-maxed character could play a trip-based Fighter who sets up the non-min-maxed Barbarian to smash the enemies. It seems like you've already talked to them and you've tried switching sides. Reducing the support they can draw on would certainly make things more challenging for them, but don't forget to still scale encounter CR's appropriately. That's the [URL="http://dictummortuum.blogspot.ca/2011/12/stormwind-fallacy.html"]Stormwind Fallacy[/URL]. Roleplaying and min-maxing are not mutually exclusive. This is especially egregious because the OP even said his players want to role-play. [/QUOTE]

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