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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark" data-source="post: 182340" data-attributes="member: 5">That, my friend, just made my day! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Sounds like you've already tried everything I could think of to help and have proceeded in the most diplomatic way possible.  Maybe the next round of DMing, you can try a different approach to the teaching that will stick with them.  *shrug*How about setting up a game where they are all recruits in some sort of bootcamp where the drill sergeant actually shouts the moves in their faces? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />OK.  That's a joke, but using some similar game premise might be just as effective and be less intrusive. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />[drill-segeant-mode]All right, Mister Posts-His-Problem-And-Gets-No-Help-From-The-Old-Markaroo!  Back to the game and teach by example as much as you can![/drill-sergeant-mode]  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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