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<blockquote data-quote="ajanders" data-source="post: 2128906" data-attributes="member: 3271">Erp...I've been following this thread with interest and some trepidation: I'm about to play my first monk ever...in an Eberron campaign.I see the monk as a generalist class: you can build it for melee combat or for scouting.You cannot get it to do both well any more than you can make a bard scout and fight and cast spells well.If you've built your monk as a ninja-type scout monk, don't expect them to do melee combat any better than a rogue.And if you've built your rogue as a melee fighter...well, don't expect them to be very stealthy or scouty.Monks will never be as good in melee as the specialized melee class -- the fighter.&nbsp; That's why they usually get built as scouts -- which is what I'm doing with mine.&nbsp; (Though I've got Power Attack tucked away for emergencies.)I hope it was a good idea: I neglected to get Monastic training, so I'm a straight monk or PrC for the next 10 levels and change.The build is posted below: any advice is recieved, but I'm pretty happy with this build and the narrative possiblities it supports.&nbsp; Yes, I recognize disguise was not an optimal skill choice.Kirik Haarn, Human, Mnk4;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;CR 4; Medium Humanoid; 5'/5';HD 4d8+8; hp 34;Init +7; Spd 40 ft/x5;AC 15;Atk +7 One-handed&nbsp; (1d8+2,20/x2, Unarmed Strike), +5/+5 Flurry of Blows&nbsp; (1d8+2/20/x2, Unarmed Strike), +6 One-handed&nbsp; (1d2/20/x2, Shuriken), +4/+4 Flurry of Blows&nbsp; (1d2/20/x2, Shuriken);SV Fort +6, Ref +7, Will +6; AL LN;Str 14(+2), Dex 16(+3), Con 14(+2), Int 14(+2), Wis 15(+2), Cha 13(+1);Skills &amp; Feats: Climb¹ +9, Disguise¹ +5, Hide¹ +12, Jump¹ +15, Listen¹ +5, Move Silently¹ +10, Spot¹ +5, Tumble +12.Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Run, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus(Unarmed Strike)&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ajanders, post: 2128906, member: 3271"] [b]Erp...[/b] I've been following this thread with interest and some trepidation: I'm about to play my first monk ever...in an Eberron campaign. I see the monk as a generalist class: you can build it for melee combat or for scouting. You cannot get it to do both well any more than you can make a bard scout and fight and cast spells well. If you've built your monk as a ninja-type scout monk, don't expect them to do melee combat any better than a rogue. And if you've built your rogue as a melee fighter...well, don't expect them to be very stealthy or scouty. Monks will never be as good in melee as the specialized melee class -- the fighter. That's why they usually get built as scouts -- which is what I'm doing with mine. (Though I've got Power Attack tucked away for emergencies.) I hope it was a good idea: I neglected to get Monastic training, so I'm a straight monk or PrC for the next 10 levels and change. The build is posted below: any advice is recieved, but I'm pretty happy with this build and the narrative possiblities it supports. Yes, I recognize disguise was not an optimal skill choice. Kirik Haarn, Human, Mnk4; "CR 4; Medium Humanoid; 5'/5'; HD 4d8+8; hp 34; Init +7; Spd 40 ft/x5; AC 15; Atk +7 One-handed (1d8+2,20/x2, Unarmed Strike), +5/+5 Flurry of Blows (1d8+2/20/x2, Unarmed Strike), +6 One-handed (1d2/20/x2, Shuriken), +4/+4 Flurry of Blows (1d2/20/x2, Shuriken); SV Fort +6, Ref +7, Will +6; AL LN; Str 14(+2), Dex 16(+3), Con 14(+2), Int 14(+2), Wis 15(+2), Cha 13(+1); Skills & Feats: Climb¹ +9, Disguise¹ +5, Hide¹ +12, Jump¹ +15, Listen¹ +5, Move Silently¹ +10, Spot¹ +5, Tumble +12. Improved Initiative, Power Attack, Run, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus(Unarmed Strike)" [/QUOTE]

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