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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Moon-Lancer" data-source="post: 3053142" data-attributes="member: 35798">raw is a myth to make people feel right. raw this raw that. Really gets on my nerves. Faq says one thing, you can say another... meh, but don’t fool yourselves that somehow saying the word "raw" makes you infallible or your argument solid. Well if golath cant have more damage with a monk, that’s a pretty weak level adjustment don’t you think? I would say though, that the ring doesn’t stack with the feat to improve the natural weapon damage and maybe because the golath is already improving the monk fists it may not stack with the feat. You can twf with just your fists. Everyone knows a monk can attack with any part of the body right? the faq says they can twf says they can use unarmed strike and offhand unarmed strike. Twf is just a feat that gives you a extra attack. paws has a good point. golath hammer, or fists... the hammer will do better damage, this guy is just barely keeping up once you take away the size and the feat.I would say a feat IS an effect. Its a general term. Your not going to beable to define it with raw this or that. It’s been debated to death at many stand stills. faq goes the way of INA working. Its just how these things go sometimes.However one must remember a spell can enhance a monk’s fist like magic fang. so why not a feat as well? It’s considered to be a natural weapon is it not? The only reason they never said the monks unarmed strike was actually a natural weapon is because it uses iterative attacks, and natural weapons don’t work like that. At least that’s the way I see it. The player is really pumping the cheese though, but when it comes to sticking up for the monk, i usaly do that, but i admit, the player is going a bit too far and something needs to be done. i think 4d6 is ok  but not 6d6</blockquote>

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