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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 6683008" data-attributes="member: 92305">On a different forum, a poster said something that I think is correct and in the spirit of the rules.He said..As I see it (I've come to see it....evaluating this threat and agreeing with the take above)...Characters in combat feint all the time.&nbsp; Combatants weave and bob, parry and dodge, swing and miss, feint and check their swings, all of this happening in an abstract combat round.When the Feint maneuver is used, something different is happening.&nbsp; The Character is relying on feints almost exclusively.&nbsp; The opponent can tell the difference in the fighting style.So, it is OK to announce that the Feint is being attempted.&nbsp; The defender isn't meta-gaming as his character recognizes the new reliance on feints and fake-outs much more often that before.During the Standard Action where the Feint is started, just announce the Feint.The opponent is free to use Withdraw on his action, if he wants (possibly opening himself up to a Charge or thrown weapon).But, the opponent will be giving up his attack not knowing whether the Feint is successful.&nbsp; Because, we roll the Feint check on the Feinter's next turn--the same turn that he'll use to strike at the defender.&nbsp; Depending on the result of the check will tell us whether the Feint was successful or not.&nbsp; If not, then the character makes a normal attack.Top of Round 1:&nbsp; Able announces the Feint.Bottom of Round 2:&nbsp; Barlo uses Withdraw.Top of Round 2:&nbsp; Able's Feint check is made.&nbsp; It is successful.&nbsp; Able charges Barlo, gaining the benefits of the Feint and the Charge.Bottom of Round 2:&nbsp; Barlo does whatever he wants, if he's still standing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 6683008, member: 92305"] On a different forum, a poster said something that I think is correct and in the spirit of the rules. He said.. As I see it (I've come to see it....evaluating this threat and agreeing with the take above)... Characters in combat feint all the time. Combatants weave and bob, parry and dodge, swing and miss, feint and check their swings, all of this happening in an abstract combat round. When the Feint maneuver is used, something different is happening. The Character is relying on feints almost exclusively. The opponent can tell the difference in the fighting style. So, it is OK to announce that the Feint is being attempted. The defender isn't meta-gaming as his character recognizes the new reliance on feints and fake-outs much more often that before. During the Standard Action where the Feint is started, just announce the Feint. The opponent is free to use Withdraw on his action, if he wants (possibly opening himself up to a Charge or thrown weapon). But, the opponent will be giving up his attack not knowing whether the Feint is successful. Because, we roll the Feint check on the Feinter's next turn--the same turn that he'll use to strike at the defender. Depending on the result of the check will tell us whether the Feint was successful or not. If not, then the character makes a normal attack. Top of Round 1: Able announces the Feint. Bottom of Round 2: Barlo uses Withdraw. Top of Round 2: Able's Feint check is made. It is successful. Able charges Barlo, gaining the benefits of the Feint and the Charge. Bottom of Round 2: Barlo does whatever he wants, if he's still standing. [/QUOTE]

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