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<blockquote data-quote="Mathilda" data-source="post: 7309254" data-attributes="member: 6836566">Horus,Points 1 and 2 go hand in hand.... since you stated it is your perception of what an appropriate challenge should be, it is very possible and likely that you will over estimate the party at some point... then at that point, what do you do when you TPK the party?&nbsp; Point 2 has nothing to do with intention or goal.. it has absolutely to do with when it happens and it will... it also has nothing to do on the player side... the players can do everything right and have decent rolls and still get TPK'd because the DM over indulged in his or her preparation in regards to lethality.Of course, you can start fudging rolls and have the monsters act with added stupidity once you realize that the avalanche is falling... but good players will realize what you are doing and it usually spoils in game immersion and beliefIn regards to point 3, what do you say when the party says we did not ask for any additional challenge and why are you penalizing this party via added challenge and not properly compensating us?AL wants the public to think they are giving freedom to the DMs to play how they want and to some point it is true but it is not a universal truth in terms of risk vs. rewardIn regards to Crypt of the Death Giants... that is a good adventure, I think Alducci wrote it but I am somewhat tainted on it due to the varying degrees on how that particular adventured has been soft balled in the player community in Los Angeles.... though it has tremendous potential in terms of challenge.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mathilda, post: 7309254, member: 6836566"] Horus, Points 1 and 2 go hand in hand.... since you stated it is your perception of what an appropriate challenge should be, it is very possible and likely that you will over estimate the party at some point... then at that point, what do you do when you TPK the party? Point 2 has nothing to do with intention or goal.. it has absolutely to do with when it happens and it will... it also has nothing to do on the player side... the players can do everything right and have decent rolls and still get TPK'd because the DM over indulged in his or her preparation in regards to lethality. Of course, you can start fudging rolls and have the monsters act with added stupidity once you realize that the avalanche is falling... but good players will realize what you are doing and it usually spoils in game immersion and belief In regards to point 3, what do you say when the party says we did not ask for any additional challenge and why are you penalizing this party via added challenge and not properly compensating us? AL wants the public to think they are giving freedom to the DMs to play how they want and to some point it is true but it is not a universal truth in terms of risk vs. reward In regards to Crypt of the Death Giants... that is a good adventure, I think Alducci wrote it but I am somewhat tainted on it due to the varying degrees on how that particular adventured has been soft balled in the player community in Los Angeles.... though it has tremendous potential in terms of challenge. [/QUOTE]

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