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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5434497" data-attributes="member: 75065">For min/maxing you can read lots of stuff on the Wizards Character Op forums.As for how to play 4e in a wargame style ....You could set up a 5 vs 5 character team, each player runs one team each. Establish terrain effects/advantages or the objective on the battlemap before play. I guess pretty much like D&D Minis. More players ... divide up the characters ...As for adventuring wargame style ... Are you DMing? Because really it's the DM that sets the tone and style of a campaign. Assuming you are the DM, by simply setting the tone role-play light and setting up a series of short, tactical delves (a series of linked combat encounters) I think you will achieve what you are looking for. Eg. the PCs are members of the Raiders Guild. This means they receive highly detailed information about the raid they are about to be assigned, maps etc. Their task is retrieve artifacts and neutralise threats that might endanger their lucrative position in society. The Raiders Guild may have an enemy organisation that competes against the Raiders in order to retrieve the artifacts beforehand or weaken the Raiders position in society. Basically they go on mission after mission. The missions are not necessarily inter-related. Players compete, against members of the other organisation, not each other.As for which books to buy etc. I guess DDI is your best option. This gets you access to all the player crunch with current errata and the Monster Builder gives you access to all the monsters. The Rules COmpendium gives you all the up to date rules, which you'll probably want a physical copy of. There is a book made up of Delve adventures (Dangerous Delves?) which give the beginning of a delve style adventure at each level (basically 3 encounters linked together with a few ideas on how to expand the adventure. It might give you a good idea of how to build the delve format. However the monster math is totally out of date, so you'd have to update the math. From what I have read they don't seem to be the most interesting of adventures. With DDI you'd have access to all the adventures from Dungeon magazine. If you used the Chaos Scar adventures, this might fit in to this kind of style fairly well.Good luck</blockquote>

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