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<blockquote data-quote="Phasics" data-source="post: 3069424" data-attributes="member: 38866">At the monment all I have is a collection of nice aspects and I'm trying to gel it all togetherFirstly this is a rouge build primarly stealth sneak attacks and underhanded skullduggerybut I wanted my rogue to have twist.I'm thinking a Small rogue with a natural reach of 10 feet would be very intersting and unexpected with a myriad of additonal flanking and attacks of opporunity possiblites.to get the 10feet reach Warshaper 3 is needed , so that cool.Now to quailfy for that I'd need shape changing from somewhere.My first thought is Druid Shapeshifter PHB II , One level and your covered with a nice Preadtor Form with a land speed of 50 mind you which would be damn nice for quick flanking.Other options include racical shape changing but honestly I've never been a fan of this when its only purpose was to quailfy for warshaper so I'd prefer shapechange to come from a class rather than race.Currently a rough build would be Rogue 1Druid 1Rogue 5Warshaper 3Rogue 10finishing Rogue 16/Druid 1/Warshaper 3with 8d6 sneaksSo I need help to put this all togther a few Q's to ponder1)How much shapshifter druid to take ? [1 level gets me pred form, 5 lvs gets me a flying form]2)Rogue Prestige classes if any ? remember attacks will be made while shifted so bite claws etc will be weapons of choice.Thanks in advance</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Phasics, post: 3069424, member: 38866"] At the monment all I have is a collection of nice aspects and I'm trying to gel it all together Firstly this is a rouge build primarly stealth sneak attacks and underhanded skullduggery but I wanted my rogue to have twist. I'm thinking a Small rogue with a natural reach of 10 feet would be very intersting and unexpected with a myriad of additonal flanking and attacks of opporunity possiblites. to get the 10feet reach Warshaper 3 is needed , so that cool. Now to quailfy for that I'd need shape changing from somewhere. My first thought is Druid Shapeshifter PHB II , One level and your covered with a nice Preadtor Form with a land speed of 50 mind you which would be damn nice for quick flanking. Other options include racical shape changing but honestly I've never been a fan of this when its only purpose was to quailfy for warshaper so I'd prefer shapechange to come from a class rather than race. Currently a rough build would be Rogue 1 Druid 1 Rogue 5 Warshaper 3 Rogue 10 finishing Rogue 16/Druid 1/Warshaper 3 with 8d6 sneaks So I need help to put this all togther a few Q's to ponder 1)How much shapshifter druid to take ? [1 level gets me pred form, 5 lvs gets me a flying form] 2)Rogue Prestige classes if any ? remember attacks will be made while shifted so bite claws etc will be weapons of choice. Thanks in advance [/QUOTE]

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