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<blockquote data-quote="grodog" data-source="post: 5803912" data-attributes="member: 1613"><p>There are also a number of good discussions about TOEE on <a href="http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=Forums" target="_blank">Canonfire!</a> and on <a href="http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=33" target="_blank">Dragonsfoot in the Greyhawk forum</a>, in particular this one: <a href="http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47909" target="_blank">Dragonsfoot • View topic - ToEE Questions</a> which includes Paul Stormberg's wonderful wilderness map of the environs surrounding Hommlet:</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.thecollectorstrove.com/storage/public/T2_PC100.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p>(and the <a href="http://www.thecollectorstrove.com/storage/public/T2_DM100.jpg" target="_blank">DM's map</a> too, which, alas, isn't in color). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's very worthwhile to think about how you want to build out the elemental evil cult(s), beyond just the Moathouse and ToEE. T1 provides some excellent rumors/suggestions for where the cult may have originated, and it can be fun to explore those a bit before the players find their way to the Temple proper. </p><p></p><p>FWIW, I used the DMG's Monastery Sample Dungeon map and added my own </p><p>second level to it, as well as another homebrew dungeon, since I was running T1 before T1-4 was published. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They're originally separate modules with no relationships to one another, but when reprinted in 1987-88 in supermodule formats, some connecting materials were added to bring them all together. There were definitely hints and points of commonality among the modules already, so it's not as far fetched as it seems:</p><p></p><p>- T1 mentions Lolth as a possible patron for Lareth (as well as teh "sharp check" dealt to Lolth, which presumably occurred prior to T1 in the original GH campaign)</p><p>- there are drow in A2, so you could connect the drowic underworld between the two, if desired (see <a href="http://www.melkot.com/locations/underdark/underdark.html" target="_blank">Maldin's fabulous drowic underdark</a> <a href="http://www.melkot.com/locations/underdark/underdark-region.html" target="_blank">regional maps</a> for some further ideas); you could also skip the G1 and G2 modules and go directly to G3 if following this route </p><p>- the Hommlet/Nulb/ToEE region of Greyhawk is quite close to the Pomarj</p><p>- the slave lords worship the "Earth Dragon" which could easily be tied back to the Earth and/or Fire Temples of ToEE if desired</p><p>- there was a G1-5 AtG: Liberation of Geoff written in the late 2e era, and G4 and G5 provide some alternate ideas for how to continue the giants adventures without heading to the drow; you could connect the slave lords to them easily enough too</p><p></p><p>Enjoy! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="grodog, post: 5803912, member: 1613"] There are also a number of good discussions about TOEE on [URL="http://www.canonfire.com/cfhtml/modules.php?name=Forums"]Canonfire![/URL] and on [URL="http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=33"]Dragonsfoot in the Greyhawk forum[/URL], in particular this one: [url=http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47909]Dragonsfoot • View topic - ToEE Questions[/url] which includes Paul Stormberg's wonderful wilderness map of the environs surrounding Hommlet: [IMG]http://www.thecollectorstrove.com/storage/public/T2_PC100.jpg[/IMG] (and the [URL="http://www.thecollectorstrove.com/storage/public/T2_DM100.jpg"]DM's map[/URL] too, which, alas, isn't in color). I think it's very worthwhile to think about how you want to build out the elemental evil cult(s), beyond just the Moathouse and ToEE. T1 provides some excellent rumors/suggestions for where the cult may have originated, and it can be fun to explore those a bit before the players find their way to the Temple proper. FWIW, I used the DMG's Monastery Sample Dungeon map and added my own second level to it, as well as another homebrew dungeon, since I was running T1 before T1-4 was published. They're originally separate modules with no relationships to one another, but when reprinted in 1987-88 in supermodule formats, some connecting materials were added to bring them all together. There were definitely hints and points of commonality among the modules already, so it's not as far fetched as it seems: - T1 mentions Lolth as a possible patron for Lareth (as well as teh "sharp check" dealt to Lolth, which presumably occurred prior to T1 in the original GH campaign) - there are drow in A2, so you could connect the drowic underworld between the two, if desired (see [URL="http://www.melkot.com/locations/underdark/underdark.html"]Maldin's fabulous drowic underdark[/URL] [URL="http://www.melkot.com/locations/underdark/underdark-region.html"]regional maps[/URL] for some further ideas); you could also skip the G1 and G2 modules and go directly to G3 if following this route - the Hommlet/Nulb/ToEE region of Greyhawk is quite close to the Pomarj - the slave lords worship the "Earth Dragon" which could easily be tied back to the Earth and/or Fire Temples of ToEE if desired - there was a G1-5 AtG: Liberation of Geoff written in the late 2e era, and G4 and G5 provide some alternate ideas for how to continue the giants adventures without heading to the drow; you could connect the slave lords to them easily enough too Enjoy! :D [/QUOTE]
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