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<blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 2342770" data-attributes="member: 20931"><p>YMMV</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Different weights and striking surfaces do different things to a body, even with similar use. F=ma. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) the fencing parry/thrust can be applied to unarmed combat, as can the thrust of a rapier to the thrust attack of a spear/quaterstaff. Speak with folks who have experience in both. The rapiers weight/shrarpness means you need less body weight to effect a target (soemething close to 8 grams) so they can alter the thrust to get out of the way. Can't do that too well with a two handed spear, but the application/energy transfer [hips/hands/target] is the same.</p><p></p><p>2) Fencing is a sport relying on the fact that everyone is following the rules. Real time combat wouldn't use the weapon outside of a duel, and fencers aren't expected to learn more than three weapons (foil, epey, and saber). The main difference between saber and the other two is slicing mechanics versus thrusting. The difference between the foil and the epey is the rules you have to follow while tournament dueling. Mechnics of the two are the same. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, talk to folks who are trained in both, or all types. The main difference in their use is timing and distance. For example, the mechanics of the punch and the rapier are the same, but the rapier user alters their technique to accomadate the opponents weapon. They're getting out of the way.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This doesn't require the use of every weapon, and comparing weapons use to spell use is not a good analogy. It's the same as comparing military training to physics majors time in school. Basic weapons and protocol is taught over the course of weeks, with the new recruit expected to perfect his trade through experience and drills. The physics major can spend years in study before he can even be considered for internship (apprenticeship?). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How many fighters in a european based setting have seen a kukri, a south east asian based weapon? How many fighters spent time learning to fight with a sickle?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>That lifetime being being around the late teens, or the races equivalent. Unless it's a war torn land, most are lucky to have seen combat at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>YMMV <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storyteller01, post: 2342770, member: 20931"] YMMV Different weights and striking surfaces do different things to a body, even with similar use. F=ma. :) 1) the fencing parry/thrust can be applied to unarmed combat, as can the thrust of a rapier to the thrust attack of a spear/quaterstaff. Speak with folks who have experience in both. The rapiers weight/shrarpness means you need less body weight to effect a target (soemething close to 8 grams) so they can alter the thrust to get out of the way. Can't do that too well with a two handed spear, but the application/energy transfer [hips/hands/target] is the same. 2) Fencing is a sport relying on the fact that everyone is following the rules. Real time combat wouldn't use the weapon outside of a duel, and fencers aren't expected to learn more than three weapons (foil, epey, and saber). The main difference between saber and the other two is slicing mechanics versus thrusting. The difference between the foil and the epey is the rules you have to follow while tournament dueling. Mechnics of the two are the same. Again, talk to folks who are trained in both, or all types. The main difference in their use is timing and distance. For example, the mechanics of the punch and the rapier are the same, but the rapier user alters their technique to accomadate the opponents weapon. They're getting out of the way. This doesn't require the use of every weapon, and comparing weapons use to spell use is not a good analogy. It's the same as comparing military training to physics majors time in school. Basic weapons and protocol is taught over the course of weeks, with the new recruit expected to perfect his trade through experience and drills. The physics major can spend years in study before he can even be considered for internship (apprenticeship?). :) How many fighters in a european based setting have seen a kukri, a south east asian based weapon? How many fighters spent time learning to fight with a sickle? That lifetime being being around the late teens, or the races equivalent. Unless it's a war torn land, most are lucky to have seen combat at all. YMMV :) [/QUOTE]
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