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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6821456" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'm not sure you should be lecturing anyone on attitude.</p><p></p><p>How did you go from the OP's statement that he didn't intend this to become a political debate, to the idea that he wants a setting based on false stereotypes and broad generalizations?</p><p></p><p>You've obviously got a big chip on your shoulder. Let's just get a few things out of the way:</p><p></p><p>1) No one in the thread is denying the size and diversity of Africa or that it indeed occupies a unique place in real world history.</p><p>2) No one in the thread if they played with or in an African setting would prefer a setting filled with false racial stereotypes or other demeaning generalizations.</p><p>3) No one in the thread thinks that Africa is just Europe with black people, although you then immediately did go on to say, "So, don't be afraid to fill places with European style cultures with dark skinned humans.", so I'm not certain exactly where you stand on this</p><p></p><p>Now, on a side note, I haven't watched the particular youtube videos you linked to so I can't judge it particularly, but from of my few past viewings of the channel I do associate 'CrashCourse' and vlogbrothers with some of the lamest, most poorly reasoned, one dimensional, illogical, poorly sourced populist trash you're ever likely to find in something purporting to teach history (or anything else). I suppose its slightly better than getting your history from a conspiracy theorist, but only just. I basically see that face on a video, and go "Oh no. Not him again. Can't he just recite Wikipedia instead." I mean, I know it's just supposed to be broad overview, but if there was a word that meant distilling things down to broad to the point of erroneous generalizations based on misconceptions and partial truths, like I don't know 'stereotyping' maybe, then John Green's face would beside it. Just an opinion, take it or leave it, but those links do the opposite of impress me.</p><p></p><p>In any event, you are just proving to me that this sort of stuff is nearly impossible to incorporate into your campaign because someone will always have some definite opinion of how it should be done and will find be offended otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6821456, member: 4937"] I'm not sure you should be lecturing anyone on attitude. How did you go from the OP's statement that he didn't intend this to become a political debate, to the idea that he wants a setting based on false stereotypes and broad generalizations? You've obviously got a big chip on your shoulder. Let's just get a few things out of the way: 1) No one in the thread is denying the size and diversity of Africa or that it indeed occupies a unique place in real world history. 2) No one in the thread if they played with or in an African setting would prefer a setting filled with false racial stereotypes or other demeaning generalizations. 3) No one in the thread thinks that Africa is just Europe with black people, although you then immediately did go on to say, "So, don't be afraid to fill places with European style cultures with dark skinned humans.", so I'm not certain exactly where you stand on this Now, on a side note, I haven't watched the particular youtube videos you linked to so I can't judge it particularly, but from of my few past viewings of the channel I do associate 'CrashCourse' and vlogbrothers with some of the lamest, most poorly reasoned, one dimensional, illogical, poorly sourced populist trash you're ever likely to find in something purporting to teach history (or anything else). I suppose its slightly better than getting your history from a conspiracy theorist, but only just. I basically see that face on a video, and go "Oh no. Not him again. Can't he just recite Wikipedia instead." I mean, I know it's just supposed to be broad overview, but if there was a word that meant distilling things down to broad to the point of erroneous generalizations based on misconceptions and partial truths, like I don't know 'stereotyping' maybe, then John Green's face would beside it. Just an opinion, take it or leave it, but those links do the opposite of impress me. In any event, you are just proving to me that this sort of stuff is nearly impossible to incorporate into your campaign because someone will always have some definite opinion of how it should be done and will find be offended otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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