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After errata, is the Grab monster ability as obnoxious as 3E's Improved Grab?
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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 5776463" data-attributes="member: 1164"><p>Improved Grab, and the grapple rules in general, seemed turned some games into <span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 15px">Grapplers & Grabasses</span></span> back in the 3E era. Pathfinder made some tweeks to the set up and for a while Grabbing creatures seemed less a big deal, but now the ability getting errata'ed to include victims of the creature's OWN size. That makes a big difference since getting <em>Enlarged</em> was an easy way to negate Grab for any Large critter fighting you. </p><p></p><p><em><strong>Page 301</strong>—In the Grab section, in the first paragraph, delete the second sentence, which reads “Unless otherwise noted, grab works only against opponents at least one size category smaller than the creature.” After the second paragraph, add the following paragraph:</em></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Unless otherwise noted, grab can only be used against targets of a size equal to or smaller than the creature with this ability. If the creature can use grab on creatures of other sizes, it is noted in the creature’s Special Attacks line</p><p></em>Due to this change, have any of you found the Grab ability getting on your nerves again?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 5776463, member: 1164"] Improved Grab, and the grapple rules in general, seemed turned some games into [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=4]Grapplers & Grabasses[/SIZE][/FONT] back in the 3E era. Pathfinder made some tweeks to the set up and for a while Grabbing creatures seemed less a big deal, but now the ability getting errata'ed to include victims of the creature's OWN size. That makes a big difference since getting [I]Enlarged[/I] was an easy way to negate Grab for any Large critter fighting you. [I][B]Page 301[/B]—In the Grab section, in the first paragraph, delete the second sentence, which reads “Unless otherwise noted, grab works only against opponents at least one size category smaller than the creature.” After the second paragraph, add the following paragraph: [INDENT]Unless otherwise noted, grab can only be used against targets of a size equal to or smaller than the creature with this ability. If the creature can use grab on creatures of other sizes, it is noted in the creature’s Special Attacks line[/INDENT][/I] Due to this change, have any of you found the Grab ability getting on your nerves again? [/QUOTE]
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