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<blockquote data-quote="Enkhidu" data-source="post: 1510272" data-attributes="member: 351">Darkmaster touched on Seinfeld earlier with his soup guy comment, and it occured to me that sitcoms are a very good way to get some common ground on CHA - the characters are well known and easily read. I'm going to strectch back afew years and use Cheers.Let's look at some of the cast:Sam - This guy is basically a doofus, and in a lot of ways he knows it. But, everyone seems to like him, and he's everyone's hero, so much so that people often expect more out of him than he's actually able to give. I'd peg him at 13 or 14. Diane - Loud, opinionated, aloof - she's everything that you'd think of as having a low CHA, right? Wrong - no how much people might dislike Diane, the notice her. People pay attention to her, just not in a good way all the time. CHA 12.NORM! - To me, Norm is the epitome of a high CHA character. Everyone knows him, and its like he's immediately everyone's best friend. That people shout his name the moment he walks through the door only reinforces his CHA. 15.Cliff - Cliff the mailman is an obnoxious know it all, and I always had the distinct impression that if he didn't always chime in with an inane comment now and then he'd be much forgotten. Cliff used CHA as his dump stat - CHA&nbsp; 9.That other guy - you know who I'm talking about. Heavy set, glasses, had a line in almost every episode. The guy was completely forgettable, so much so that I doubt anyone knows his name. He had absolutely no presence. To me that means CHA 7I'd suggest trying this with other well known characters, to develop consensus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Enkhidu, post: 1510272, member: 351"] Darkmaster touched on Seinfeld earlier with his soup guy comment, and it occured to me that sitcoms are a very good way to get some common ground on CHA - the characters are well known and easily read. I'm going to strectch back afew years and use Cheers. Let's look at some of the cast: Sam - This guy is basically a doofus, and in a lot of ways he knows it. But, everyone seems to like him, and he's everyone's hero, so much so that people often expect more out of him than he's actually able to give. I'd peg him at 13 or 14. Diane - Loud, opinionated, aloof - she's everything that you'd think of as having a low CHA, right? Wrong - no how much people might dislike Diane, the [i]notice[/i] her. People pay attention to her, just not in a good way all the time. CHA 12. NORM! - To me, Norm is the epitome of a high CHA character. Everyone knows him, and its like he's immediately everyone's best friend. That people shout his name the moment he walks through the door only reinforces his CHA. 15. Cliff - Cliff the mailman is an obnoxious know it all, and I always had the distinct impression that if he didn't always chime in with an inane comment now and then he'd be much forgotten. Cliff used CHA as his dump stat - CHA 9. That other guy - you know who I'm talking about. Heavy set, glasses, had a line in almost every episode. The guy was completely forgettable, so much so that I doubt anyone knows [i]his[/i] name. He had absolutely no presence. To me that means CHA 7 I'd suggest trying this with other well known characters, to develop consensus. [/QUOTE]

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