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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 1511026" data-attributes="member: 3929">Trying to fix Charisma so it has more of a combat effect is like fixing a bicycle so it works better underwater. It works just fine when you use it for what it was intended.Charisma is not a combat stat, except for those classes that uniquely use it as one. But it does have in-game effects and consequences. In a role-play heavy campaign where combat occurs once every fourth session, the fighters will start complaining that their STR scores are useless. So instead of assigning actions points based off of Charisma (as if charismatic people move faster, or something), try encounters that PCs won't be able to solve using their physical attributes. Yes, DnD can be combat heavy. But it is in the RPG section of gaming stores. So if you're upset that your players treat CHA as dump-stat, try to remember what the RP stands for and come up with something different to throw at them.And if they don't like RP challenges because Tandok the Dwarf Fighter has a 6 CHA, then pander to their desires for more fights. Or not. But don't blame the system for something that's not its problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 1511026, member: 3929"] Trying to fix Charisma so it has more of a combat effect is like fixing a bicycle so it works better underwater. It works just fine when you use it for what it was intended. Charisma is not a combat stat, except for those classes that uniquely use it as one. But it does have in-game effects and consequences. In a role-play heavy campaign where combat occurs once every fourth session, the fighters will start complaining that their STR scores are useless. So instead of assigning actions points based off of Charisma (as if charismatic people move faster, or something), try encounters that PCs won't be able to solve using their physical attributes. Yes, DnD can be combat heavy. But it is in the RPG section of gaming stores. So if you're upset that your players treat CHA as dump-stat, try to remember what the RP stands for and come up with something different to throw at them. And if they don't like RP challenges because Tandok the Dwarf Fighter has a 6 CHA, then pander to their desires for more fights. Or not. But don't blame the system for something that's not its problem. [/QUOTE]

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