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<blockquote data-quote="DarkMaster" data-source="post: 1512029" data-attributes="member: 16362">Charisma and social skilled cannot be roleplayed, like combat cannot be roleplayed, I cannot fight like a 10 th level fighter and I cannot convince like someone with 20+ in diplomacy or bluff. The player choose the content of the speech but it has to be delivered in the game through his player, with his player skilled. If your Int 18, Cha 6, bluff -2 wizard comes with something very smart to fool the guard, but his shaking nervously and missing words or getting confused in his lie, the guard will notice that while the story seems right the messenger seems nervous or the way the story is told is really unconvincing.Take a real life example, an author can write a joke, then the same joke told by a professional stand-up comic and an average accountant will have a very different effect. Content is the same but the way it is delivered changes. Very often in life packaging is noticed much more than content.Obviously for very good idea you apply a modifier on the roll. If the rogue gathered info on what's in the tower or the idea is very clever I will give important bonus (more than the mere +2 recommanded by the SRD).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DarkMaster, post: 1512029, member: 16362"] Charisma and social skilled cannot be roleplayed, like combat cannot be roleplayed, I cannot fight like a 10 th level fighter and I cannot convince like someone with 20+ in diplomacy or bluff. The player choose the content of the speech but it has to be delivered in the game through his player, with his player skilled. If your Int 18, Cha 6, bluff -2 wizard comes with something very smart to fool the guard, but his shaking nervously and missing words or getting confused in his lie, the guard will notice that while the story seems right the messenger seems nervous or the way the story is told is really unconvincing. Take a real life example, an author can write a joke, then the same joke told by a professional stand-up comic and an average accountant will have a very different effect. Content is the same but the way it is delivered changes. Very often in life packaging is noticed much more than content. Obviously for very good idea you apply a modifier on the roll. If the rogue gathered info on what's in the tower or the idea is very clever I will give important bonus (more than the mere +2 recommanded by the SRD). [/QUOTE]

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