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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother Shatterstone" data-source="post: 1619687" data-attributes="member: 13442">I'm not seeing that to be honest...  Knight of the Crown is a nice PrC that any fighter type should look at but it's hardly broken. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />There's no way a straight fighter can make it into the Knights of the Sword...  (Need to be able to cast divine spells)Knight of the sword only gives a d8, and low-level paladin abilities, smite, aura, turn undead.Knight of the Rose, finishes off the paladin "template" by giving divine grace, detect evil, aura of good, and a few bard powers...  While not gaining upon the ability to turn undead for a few levels... (from KoR 1 to KoR 4)Give me a Faerûn paladin any day. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (minus fluff)At least we agree that the higher orders are hard to get into. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>