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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 2866527" data-attributes="member: 13892">By 1993 Greyhawk had ceased to be the flagship AD&D setting, the rules of said game having been altered specifically to mirror the FR setting post Time of Troubles (this is why assassins, half-orcs, and other things were removed as defualt features in AD&D 2e). It marked what many people saw (and still see) as the end of Gary Gygax's Greyhawk.Carl Sargeant stepped in at hsi point in time, revisioning much of the setting. Sargeant's Greyhawk never achieved the same popularity as Gary Gygax's Greyhawk did in fan circles or on the commercial market, largely due to the revision of things that had been established as setting canon for the better part of two decades. There were those who saw (and, indeed, still see) Sargeant as the best thing ever to happen to Greyhawk. That said, the fact that his involvement coincided with, not only the removal of the setting from its flagship status, but the subsequent withdraw of regular commercial support by TSR speaks volumes. The reintroduction of Kyuss (a long dead priest only briefly mentioned in the Fiend Folio and not associated with any specific setting) as a godlike being was typical of the setting retcons made during the Sargeant era. My above comment was meant to indicate that, for many Greyhawk fans, material published during Sargeant's time at the helm is not considered canon. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the setting in either incarnation, but if I had to chose between Gygax's and Sargeant's vision of the setting, I'd choose the former as it is the Greyhawk that the majority of D&D players are familiar with.[P.S. I may be wrong, but I believe that this is what Whizbang Dustyboots was hinting around at earlier, as well.]</blockquote>

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