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[Age of Worms] Law in Diamond Lake? (Potential spoilers!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3299268" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Speaking as a DM running AoW (and a lawyer...)</p><p></p><p>Your DM was upset because your best option for a lawful response was to go to Captain Trask, the leader of the troops in town who are under the command of the Lords of Greyhawk - and not the local scum in Diamond Lake. The cleric of Heironius at the garrison would have spoken with dead - or threatened to - and Cullen would have talked without the threat of pain. By appealing to the authority of the Lords of Greyhawk and the Church of Hieronius - not the corrupt locals - your character would certainly have been acting in a lawful manner.</p><p></p><p>Secondly - threatening torture upon someone in order to obtain information in a very realistic and believable way is, imo, the opposite of truth, justice, order and weal. And that isn't open to finessing Jeff - in 1850 or 1950.</p><p></p><p>That would be torture in the sense of "we wrapped electrodes around the hooded man's genitals and did not plug them in - but he didn't know they were not plugged in so he sang like a canary" variety of torture. "Lawful" as that term is used in D&D? Not even close. </p><p></p><p>By which I mean to say you acted out of pure self-interest, without restraint or respect for the law, custom , honor or anything "good". </p><p></p><p>In fact, that's pretty close to acting "evil" in my books Jeff. Not capital "E" in that "I-give-myself-freely-to-the-Evil-of-the-Sword" Evil, but in the Big-Time long distance call from "good" sense of the word.</p><p></p><p>If I was your DM - I'd have said the same thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3299268, member: 20741"] Speaking as a DM running AoW (and a lawyer...) Your DM was upset because your best option for a lawful response was to go to Captain Trask, the leader of the troops in town who are under the command of the Lords of Greyhawk - and not the local scum in Diamond Lake. The cleric of Heironius at the garrison would have spoken with dead - or threatened to - and Cullen would have talked without the threat of pain. By appealing to the authority of the Lords of Greyhawk and the Church of Hieronius - not the corrupt locals - your character would certainly have been acting in a lawful manner. Secondly - threatening torture upon someone in order to obtain information in a very realistic and believable way is, imo, the opposite of truth, justice, order and weal. And that isn't open to finessing Jeff - in 1850 or 1950. That would be torture in the sense of "we wrapped electrodes around the hooded man's genitals and did not plug them in - but he didn't know they were not plugged in so he sang like a canary" variety of torture. "Lawful" as that term is used in D&D? Not even close. By which I mean to say you acted out of pure self-interest, without restraint or respect for the law, custom , honor or anything "good". In fact, that's pretty close to acting "evil" in my books Jeff. Not capital "E" in that "I-give-myself-freely-to-the-Evil-of-the-Sword" Evil, but in the Big-Time long distance call from "good" sense of the word. If I was your DM - I'd have said the same thing. [/QUOTE]
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