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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5523312" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'm trying to put myself in the heads of the deities involved. How do they feel about this? What would they do? I have a sense that they would not be entirely happy. I have a sense as a DM that the actions of the characters are indistinguishable in most ways from the actions that the characters would take were their characters evil, and that this is not ideal. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see you have a considerable chip on your shoulder. I bellieve its clear that I've given them considerable hints, clues, and outright statements about how morality works. I believe that to a certain extent this is irrelevant, because I think the players are smart enough to know that they are playing their character as ruthless and merciless without me having to tell them, "You know that was pretty ruthless and merciless." I believe that it is very clear that I haven't been swift to punish anything, and moreover that I don't even consider first order consequences of disappointing a good deity known for compassion and mercy and the like to be swift and painful punishment. Unlike the PCs, the diety is supposed to be emboding nearly perfect goodness, so the question is more like, "What gentle chastisement will the deity first resort to?"</p><p></p><p>It should be equally clear that I'm allowing a certain amount of amguity in the servants of good because the mortals aren't perfect embodiments of goodness and some leeway on that grounds is assumed. Good people, even honest and sincere ones, don't always act rightly.</p><p></p><p>Loss of clerical powers or the like is not going to occur by surprise in my game. Please just drop the sterotyping.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mostly grass and other cows.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look, you've made it really easy to characterize your alignment perspective. Whether or not you see murder here is irrelevant. I concur that NPCs with your alignment perspective don't see this as murder. Deities of NG I think certainly do. If by your own admission you 'aren't good', why do you think those that are would see things exactly the way you do?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5523312, member: 4937"] I'm trying to put myself in the heads of the deities involved. How do they feel about this? What would they do? I have a sense that they would not be entirely happy. I have a sense as a DM that the actions of the characters are indistinguishable in most ways from the actions that the characters would take were their characters evil, and that this is not ideal. I can see you have a considerable chip on your shoulder. I bellieve its clear that I've given them considerable hints, clues, and outright statements about how morality works. I believe that to a certain extent this is irrelevant, because I think the players are smart enough to know that they are playing their character as ruthless and merciless without me having to tell them, "You know that was pretty ruthless and merciless." I believe that it is very clear that I haven't been swift to punish anything, and moreover that I don't even consider first order consequences of disappointing a good deity known for compassion and mercy and the like to be swift and painful punishment. Unlike the PCs, the diety is supposed to be emboding nearly perfect goodness, so the question is more like, "What gentle chastisement will the deity first resort to?" It should be equally clear that I'm allowing a certain amount of amguity in the servants of good because the mortals aren't perfect embodiments of goodness and some leeway on that grounds is assumed. Good people, even honest and sincere ones, don't always act rightly. Loss of clerical powers or the like is not going to occur by surprise in my game. Please just drop the sterotyping. Mostly grass and other cows. Look, you've made it really easy to characterize your alignment perspective. Whether or not you see murder here is irrelevant. I concur that NPCs with your alignment perspective don't see this as murder. Deities of NG I think certainly do. If by your own admission you 'aren't good', why do you think those that are would see things exactly the way you do? [/QUOTE]
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