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<blockquote data-quote="GreyICE" data-source="post: 5901977" data-attributes="member: 6684526">They did try and justify it at some points with things like 'if two fighters are both trying to 'get in someone's face' they're in each other's way as much as anyone else's, but what it boiled down to is that a really good strategy with multiple marks on one target is to get 4 defenders and 1 leader, then mark everything.&nbsp; Anything that does anything gets ganked by OAs before it can even move.&nbsp; While an all-defender party is viable, it shouldn't be viable because it outdamages strikers while having no weaknesses.I'm fine with some gamist reasoning to allow players to actually interfere with monsters.&nbsp; Pre 4E it was amazingly simple to ignore the fighter and beat on the wizard - there were no penalties.&nbsp; Lets face it folks, Dungeons and Dragons is a game.&nbsp; And if a particular mechanic makes the game a lot more fun, then it's probably a good mechanic, even if 'that guy' can point out some way where 'oh my god this corner case just does not make any sense.'&nbsp; Hell, the entire Cleric class doesn't make any sense, why does God only hand out miracles once a day?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyICE, post: 5901977, member: 6684526"] They did try and justify it at some points with things like 'if two fighters are both trying to 'get in someone's face' they're in each other's way as much as anyone else's, but what it boiled down to is that a really good strategy with multiple marks on one target is to get 4 defenders and 1 leader, then mark everything. Anything that does anything gets ganked by OAs before it can even move. While an all-defender party is viable, it shouldn't be viable because it outdamages strikers while having no weaknesses. I'm fine with some gamist reasoning to allow players to actually interfere with monsters. Pre 4E it was amazingly simple to ignore the fighter and beat on the wizard - there were no penalties. Lets face it folks, Dungeons and Dragons is a game. And if a particular mechanic makes the game a lot more fun, then it's probably a good mechanic, even if 'that guy' can point out some way where 'oh my god this corner case just does not make any sense.' Hell, the entire Cleric class doesn't make any sense, why does God only hand out miracles once a day? [/QUOTE]

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