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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arabesu" data-source="post: 3639771" data-attributes="member: 534">The problem I am finding with the smart/agile fighter builds are three fold:1) MAD - a typical PA/str fighter really only needs strength and con. A smart/agile fighter needs dex/int/str/con in that order. And if you think you can get away with low str see below.2) HUGE and larger creatures. Have one fight with one of these and have a bad day. The only option for most is MANY, MANY ranks in escape artist. Hope its on your list. Other tricks like bull rush and trip from a monster and you're going to get hosed. Weak str equals auto lose versus most of these creatures. Best invest in ring of freedom of movement...3) immune to precise damage. Rogue and swash builds need it, oozes etc don't get it. Some tricks to get it vs undead are available, such as penetrating strike.All in all smart/agile = highly variable, when your on your on, but when you not you have problems, whereas the str fighter is generally more consistent (but sometimes slightly less impressive if that makes sense).</blockquote>