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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 5432287" data-attributes="member: 6562">If the people involved can only be described with the words &quot;Sorceress&quot;, &quot;Artificer&quot; and &quot;Expert&quot;, then your system is chosen for you: you must use 3.x, since no other system has Sorcerer, Artificer and Expert. In other words, if you want the mechanical implications of tactical flexibility vs. strategic flexibility (which is what you get with a Sorcerer's spell-slots vs. an Artificer's wealth-conversion), then your system is chosen based on those mechanical implications.If the Sorceress and Artificer can be replaced by Magic-User and Magic-User (respectively), then you can use any darn system. In 4e, the Sorceress and Artificer will use rather similar mechanics -- and (IMHO) mechanics which were not really intended to be used for PvP. Still, there's some fun to be had in using rules as they were not intended.- - -IMHO, the most mechanically supported devious back-stabbing would occur using 3.5e rules, since every spell and effect is well defined when used on your friends, and since there are a lot of flexible spells which both sides can abuse. Also, you might get to see two PCs both cast shapechange and go at each other, and holy cow is that fun to watch.Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 5432287, member: 6562"] If the people involved can only be described with the words "Sorceress", "Artificer" and "Expert", then your system is chosen for you: you must use 3.x, since no other system has Sorcerer, Artificer and Expert. In other words, if you want the mechanical implications of tactical flexibility vs. strategic flexibility (which is what you get with a Sorcerer's spell-slots vs. an Artificer's wealth-conversion), then your system is chosen based on those mechanical implications. If the Sorceress and Artificer can be replaced by Magic-User and Magic-User (respectively), then you can use any darn system. In 4e, the Sorceress and Artificer will use rather similar mechanics -- and (IMHO) mechanics which were not really intended to be used for PvP. Still, there's some fun to be had in using rules as they were [u]not[/u] intended. - - - IMHO, the most mechanically supported devious back-stabbing would occur using 3.5e rules, since every spell and effect is well defined when used on your friends, and since there are a lot of flexible spells which both sides can abuse. Also, you might get to see two PCs both cast [i]shapechange[/i] and go at each other, and holy cow is that fun to watch. Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]

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